[NL2-NL10] NL5 SH 77 freeplay set pot building

    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 6,858
      so i was tired, but saw a lot at fish at some tables so i decided to play anyway
      i set a few rules to myself: nitbox ranges, don't cbet oop, don't cbet at all vs fish, don't play speculative hands "in position", value bet huge, don't ever continue without less than top pair, no leveling. superexploitable abc poker.
      ran good, and turned out to be a success :f_love: maybe i should even play like that more often.
      still some interesting spots:

      Everest - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      SB: $5.99
      Hero (BB): $10.21
      UTG: $3.01
      MP: $1.75
      CO: $1.35
      BTN: $3.25

      SB posts SB $0.03, Hero posts BB $0.05

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.08) Hero has 7:spade: 7:heart:

      fold, MP calls $0.05, fold, BTN calls $0.05, SB calls $0.02, Hero checks

      Flop: ($0.20, 4 players) 7:club: J:heart: 9:spade:
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, MP calls $0.20, BTN calls $0.20, fold
      a straight is possible. should i care?

      Turn: ($0.80, 3 players) 2:club:
      Hero bets $0.60, MP calls $0.60, BTN raises to $3.00 and is all-in, Hero raises to $9.96 and is all-in, MP calls $0.90 and is all-in

      River: ($8.30, 3 players) T:spade:

      Hero shows 7:spade: 7:heart: (Three of a Kind, Sevens) (Pre 19%, Flop 74%, Turn 86%)
      MP shows J:club: T:heart: (Two Pair, Jacks and Tens) (Pre 15%, Flop 17%, Turn 10%)
      BTN shows A:heart: A:club: (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 67%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
      Hero wins $4.95
      Hero wins $2.81
  • 3 replies
    • altruist
      altruist
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.05.2007 Posts: 121
      That's usually the way to play against fish, and you're going to see way more fishes than good players at NL5.

      Preflop is fine. You want to keep the fish in the pot.

      Flop bet is great! You want to maximize your value. Yes, there's a possible straight out there, but you shouldn't worry about it until you see a raise from a nitty player.

      Turn, I recmomend actually betting more, since two people called. I don't think $0.60 is horrible, but if someone is going to call you, might as well get more value. It just so happens BTN was slow playing what he thought was the best hand, but chances are he was going to raise you anyway. If someone has sticky QT, you want the maximum value for the draw. If someone has AJ and he is going to check/call flop and turn, you want more money in the pot.

      Obviously, call all-in if they raise you all-in. I actually like that you shoved the turn, instead of flatted, as that looks suspiciously strong, you might've earned yourself an extra $0.90 there.
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 6,858
      yeah fish are so nice. you literally just have to hang in there long enough until they just donate you their money:

      Everest - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      UTG: $7.93
      MP: $11.24
      CO: $1.52
      Hero (BTN): $4.92
      SB: $1.35
      BB: $13.35

      SB posts SB $0.03, BB posts BB $0.05

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.08) Hero has Q:club: Q:diamond:

      fold, MP raises to $0.10, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, MP calls $0.20

      Flop: ($0.68, 2 players) Q:spade: 5:club: K:heart:
      MP bets $0.68, Hero calls $0.68
      what the hell is he doing? i just let him have his fun.

      Turn: ($2.04, 2 players) 2:diamond:
      MP bets $0.95, Hero calls $0.95

      River: ($3.94, 2 players) 9:club:
      MP bets $1.31, Hero raises to $2.99 and is all-in, MP calls $1.68

      Hero shows Q:club: Q:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Queens) (Pre 71%, Flop 95%, Turn 100%)
      MP shows K:diamond: T:club: (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 29%, Flop 5%, Turn 0%)
      Hero wins $9.26

      Everest - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: $10.52
      UTG: $4.66
      Hero (CO): $5.02
      BTN: $8.30
      SB: $5.71

      SB posts SB $0.03, BB posts BB $0.05

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.08) Hero has J:spade: J:club:

      fold, Hero raises to $0.18, fold, fold, BB calls $0.13

      Flop: ($0.39, 2 players) J:heart: T:heart: 7:diamond:
      BB bets $0.39, Hero raises to $1.23, BB calls $0.84

      Turn: ($2.85, 2 players) 5:spade:
      BB checks, Hero bets $1.89, BB calls $1.89
      set up river shove where he can't fold

      River: ($6.63, 2 players) 7:club:
      BB checks, Hero bets $1.72 and is all-in, BB calls $1.72

      Hero shows J:spade: J:club: (Full House, Jacks full of Sevens) (Pre 67%, Flop 92%, Turn 100%)
      BB shows J:diamond: Q:heart: (Two Pair, Jacks and Sevens) (Pre 33%, Flop 8%, Turn 0%)
      Hero wins $9.41

      Everest - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      UTG: $3.95
      Hero (BTN): $12.69
      SB: $8.27
      BB: $1.39

      SB posts SB $0.03, BB posts BB $0.05

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.08) Hero has K:spade: K:club:

      UTG raises to $0.18, Hero raises to $0.62, fold, fold, UTG raises to $1.94, Hero raises to $12.69 and is all-in, UTG calls $2.01 and is all-in


      Flop: ($7.98, 2 players) K:diamond: 2:diamond: 6:heart:

      Turn: ($7.98, 2 players) 9:spade:

      River: ($7.98, 2 players) 9:heart:

      UTG shows A:diamond: J:diamond: (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 32%, Flop 26%, Turn 16%)
      Hero shows K:spade: K:club: (Full House, Kings full of Nines) (Pre 68%, Flop 74%, Turn 84%)
      Hero wins $7.46
      (or suck out. thankfully i just ran good and no suckouts)

      my plan on flop is to bet/shove because i'm just generally ahead of their range and even against straights i have reasonable equity.
      on turn however my equity against straights pretty much sucks. but i still see myself ahead of their general range often, which should include many twopair and even top pair.

      as for the turnbet, they are kinda shortstacked, so i bet what i thought was just enough to set up a river shove where they could call for "good odds"...
      i mean, pot is 0.80 - with two callers it goes to 0.80+0.60*3 = 2.60 when BTN would have like 2.4 left and i can shove for slightly below potsize.
      okay, that's not superawesome for him, but if MP stays on the pot it gets a lot more enticing :f_love:
      if MP folds turn i just can't do anything about bombing the pot anyway.

      i have more hands from this session to post, but i'm just being lazy for now.
      also, thanks for passing by. i appreciate any commentary on my hands, praise or critique :)
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Tomaloc,

      You could Bet the turn more so you would have an easy shove on the river. :) But of course vs their stacks we ain't really planning to fold our hand anyways.

      Best Regards.