[NL20-NL50] [Fr] Nl25 Qq 12.04.

    • HansTheGreat
      HansTheGreat
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      SB: $7.25 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 6
      BB: $18.65 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: 1.5, Hands: 55
      UTG: $33.84 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 52
      UTG+1: $45.08 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 18, 3B: 10, AF: 5.3, Hands: 106
      UTG+2: $23.03 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 4.0, Hands: 32
      MP1: $39.78 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 1.7, Hands: 505
      MP2: $10.37 - VPIP: 48, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 9.5, Hands: 69
      CO: $5.56 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 9, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 650
      Hero (BTN): $41.04 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 4.1, Hands: 84062

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with Q :club: Q :spade:
      UTG raises to $1, 5 folds, Hero calls $1, 2 folds

      Flop: ($2.35) 9 :diamond: 4 :heart: 3 :spade: (2 players)
      UTG bets $1.68, Hero calls $1.68

      Turn: ($5.71) T :heart: (2 players)
      UTG bets $3.50, Hero folds

  • 9 replies
    • Rastlin1
      Rastlin1
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      If you are calling the flop and another blank comes on the turn I think that I would be calling this one down to the river and playing WAWB. He can bet like this on many hands including 55-88, JJ, AK

      Plus look at the turn bet size, as bogdan said in his coaching today mostly players at these limits are given away by their bet sizes. If he had a hand he wanted to protect like kk, AA wouldnt he have bet more?
    • HansTheGreat
      HansTheGreat
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      Originally posted by Rastlin1
      If you are calling the flop and another blank comes on the turn I think that I would be calling this one down to the river and playing WAWB. He can bet like this on many hands including 55-88, JJ, AK

      Plus look at the turn bet size, as bogdan said in his coaching today mostly players at these limits are given away by their bet sizes. If he had a hand he wanted to protect like kk, AA wouldnt he have bet more?
      Look at the difference between VPIP and PFR, look position and how can you imagine that he open small PP. Even I play 16,12 and do not open 55,66 UTG. So only 77, 88,JJ I beat and AA,KK,TT, 99 beat me so more pairs beat me then I beat them. About AK I don t have any info about him betting there so if you plan to call the turn you should plan to call the river aswell.
    • Rastlin1
      Rastlin1
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      [quote]Originally posted by Sikac
      Originally posted by Rastlin1
      Even I play 16,12 and do not open 55,66 UTG. So only 77, 88,JJ I beat and AA,KK,TT, 99 beat me so more pairs beat me then I beat them. About AK I don t have any info about him betting there so if you plan to call the turn you should plan to call the river aswell.
      Right so he isnt better 33 or 44, he might bet 77,88,JJ that you beat and AA, KK, TT, 99 that you dont

      for me the only indicator here is that we are either way ahead or way behind, so the difference for me is the size of his bets, he isnt betting close to full pot to get the money in and i think that makes me lean more towards the lower pairs
    • UnknownJoseph
      UnknownJoseph
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      I don't think so this player is able to 2ndB with air.
      On the turn we are better than just JJ and bluffs. His pfr is just 6+ open raise from utg... this is easy fold on the turn. I would play in the same way.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Hi,

      Raising flop would give you better idea where you´re at. If you are against AA/KK he would likely b/c and you check it down, if he has there overcards he would just b/f.

      If you call flop I would like calling turn. He would sometimes barrel there AK and you´re still ahead of 6%

      board: T943
      Hand Equity Wins Ties
      QQ 62.17% 2,445,396 67,500
      6% 37.83% 1,474,560 67,500

      best regards,
    • HansTheGreat
      HansTheGreat
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      Could you veriz also post your opinion
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Hello Sikac,

      Raising flop wouldn't just make any sense. :D You are just isolating against strong hands. I would have played the same way without knowing much about him. He doesn't seem to be that wide with the PFR either so not that many hands you beat on the turn.

      Best Regards.
    • w4terman
      w4terman
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      why not 3bet/fold preflop ?
    • HansTheGreat
      HansTheGreat
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      Originally posted by w4terman
      why not 3bet/fold preflop ?
      Hey w4terman,
      We can of course 3bet/fold but if you are doing this you are turning your hand into a bluff if you get 4bet. If you are willing to turn your QQ into a bluff well then you should go with it.I flat because I wasnt sure how often I m going to 3bet for value against such an opponent.