[NL20-NL50] nl20sh raise flop

    • mawaykid
      mawaykid
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      Joined: 28.11.2009 Posts: 2,773
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      NL Holdem $0.20(BB) Replayer
      SB ($11.10)
      BB ($19.92)
      UTG ($20.60)
      Hero ($27.81)
      CO ($36.44)
      BTN ($34.10) 19/13/4.0 2.7af / f2cb and raise cbet 27%(15) each

      Dealt to Hero K:club: A:heart:

      fold, Hero raises to $0.60, fold, BTN calls $0.60, fold, fold

      FLOP ($1.50) 3:club: Q:spade: A:spade:

      Hero bets $1, BTN raises to $3.60, Hero calls $2.60

      TURN ($8.70) 3:club: Q:spade: A:spade: 5:spade:

      Hero checks, BTN bets $6.50, Hero folds


      I call flop cause he would raise with worse, like FD, gutshot or or this and keep he with this range.
      Or is better 3b/c or fold flop ?
  • 4 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello mawaykid,

      Rather 3bet the flop yourself or just Bet/Fold it. No way to give him free cards there without having any backdoors ourselves.

      Best Regards.
    • mawaykid
      mawaykid
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      Joined: 28.11.2009 Posts: 2,773
      with AhKs do u like call? and do c/c on spade turn?

      What helps me figure out what is the best option flop?
    • CallumN
      CallumN
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      Joined: 04.01.2012 Posts: 1,141
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello mawaykid,

      Rather 3bet the flop yourself or just Bet/Fold it. No way to give him free cards there without having any backdoors ourselves.

      Best Regards.
      Anything besides betfold is terrible imo vs a 19-13
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by CallumN
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello mawaykid,

      Rather 3bet the flop yourself or just Bet/Fold it. No way to give him free cards there without having any backdoors ourselves.

      Best Regards.
      Anything besides betfold is terrible imo vs a 19-13
      Yep true, but I just wanted to point out that Calling is the worst line which he ever could pick. If you put him on a range which also includes draws in his raising range then it doesn't make sense to Call. The only reason what made him think of continue here is just take a look at the guy raise CB (27%).

      with AhKs do u like call? and do c/c on spade turn?

      With AK and the in it would be a bit different, then we could also keep his range wide and weaker hands in the play and of course our plan would be to continue with another coming in. But then again what you should be asking is what kind of range do you think he is raising you with? Could we even consider him having a lot weaker hands in his call open range? He might only play very few hands as PPs/some broadways in his range and that's it. What's the sample we are against (hands).

      What helps me figure out what is the best option flop?

      Depends a lot on the sample, what kind of hands do you expect him to raise vs you. How big part of his raising range is there for example draws, do you think he is raising with TP/mid-pair type of hands? Is he capable of raising with pure bluffs? All those type of notes could be worthy. All those kind of notes are pretty important during SH game.