[NL2-NL10] SH5 3bet pot - getting away from set over set?

    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 6,858
      well, please forgive the totally result oriented thread title.
      but i felt like i really could get away from this...

      Everest - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      SB: $7.32
      BB: $5.67
      UTG: $4.35
      Hero (CO): $5.83
      BTN: $4.92

      SB posts SB $0.03, BB posts BB $0.05

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.08) Hero has 5:heart: 5:diamond:

      fold, Hero raises to $0.16, fold, fold, BB raises to $0.51, Hero calls $0.35
      openraiser is guy from this hand.


      now well, 1.6 3bet? really? imo his range is face up... KK+
      so i call to setmine.

      Flop: ($1.05, 2 players) 5:club: K:diamond: 2:club:
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.69, BB raises to $2.00, Hero raises to $5.32 and is all-in, BB calls $3.16 and is all-in
      so well, now he c/r me? really? and i know his range is most likely KK+.
      this line really really looks like KK. or does it? i tanked before shoving...

      would like any opinions

      Turn: ($11.37, 2 players) 9:spade:

      River: ($11.37, 2 players) 2:diamond:

      BB shows K:spade: K:club: (Full House, Kings full of Twos) (Pre 80%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
      Hero shows 5:heart: 5:diamond: (Full House, Fives full of Twos) (Pre 20%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
      BB wins $10.63
  • 5 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Tomaloc,

      Seems to be fine and obviously we are not getting away there. Nice hand!

      Best Regards.
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
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      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 6,858
      good. but what's hero's reasoning?
      he could play AA like this and there are twice as many AA than KK in his range (card removal)? i don't think he has AK in his 3b range, QQ maybe but wouldn't play like this obv.

      i guess even if he had the same number of AA and KK combos we still get stacks in because of the dead money...
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Tomaloc
      good. but what's hero's reasoning?
      he could play AA like this and there are twice as many AA than KK in his range (card removal)? i don't think he has AK in his 3b range, QQ maybe but wouldn't play like this obv.

      i guess even if he had the same number of AA and KK combos we still get stacks in because of the dead money...
      For example just put into his range KK+ and maybe add something like A:cK and see how you doing. :) And even if you remove it and keep KK/AA, you still should be doing good.
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
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      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 6,858
      yes i did some experimenting. for those following here are some random ranges:

      Board: 5:club: K:diamond: 2:club:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      CO     59.93%  59.93%   0.00% { 5d5h }
      BB     40.07%  40.07%   0.00% { KK+ }


      Board: 5:club: K:diamond: 2:club:
      Equity Win Tie
      CO 48.60% 48.60% 0.00% { 5d5h }
      BB 51.40% 51.40% 0.00% { KK, AdAc, AhAc, AsAc, AcKc }


      Board: 5:club: K:diamond: 2:club:
      Equity Win Tie
      CO 60.87% 60.87% 0.00% { 5d5h }
      BB 39.13% 39.13% 0.00% { KK+, AcKc }


      Board: 5:club: K:diamond: 2:club:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      CO     45.15%  45.15%   0.00% { 5d5h }
      BB     54.85%  54.85%   0.00% { AsAc, KsKc }
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      So yep, get it in. :)