[NL2-NL10] NL4 AKs flop TPTK + nut flush draw - Flop & Turn questions. and maybe pre-flop.

    • William340
      William340
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      Joined: 10.02.2012 Posts: 170
      Villains' stats added!

      $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
      Merge
      8 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com <- no irony there! :f_p:

      Stacks:
      UTG Player5 ($4) VPIP: 11, PFR: 9, 3B: 2, AF: 3.4, Hands: 625
      UTG+1 Player6 ($4.74)
      MP1 Player8 ($2.93)
      MP2 Player9 ($4.08)
      CO Player1 ($4.60) VPIP: 21, PFR: 10, 3B: 10, AF: 3.0, Hands: 48
      BTN Player2 ($5.32)
      SB Hero ($4.71)
      BB Player4 ($5.38)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 8 players) Hero is SB A:heart: K:heart:
      Player5 raises to $0.12, 3 folds, Player1 calls $0.12, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold

      Flop: K:spade: 10:heart: 4:heart: ($0.40, 3 players)
      Hero checks, Player5 bets $0.20, Player1 raises to $0.60,
      Hero
      calls $0.60, Player5 calls $0.40

      Turn: 10:spade: ($2.20, 3 players)
      Hero checks, Player5 bets $0.39, Player1 raises to $1.88, Hero folds, Player5 folds

      Final Pot: $2.98

      Player1 wins $5.82 (net +$3.22)

      Player5 collects $0.00 (net -$1.11)
      Hero collects $0.00 (net -$0.72)

      I am guessing I should have jammed the flop.
      I guess I called to keep Player 5 in, or hoping he would re-raise.
      but then the wheels came off.
      I did not turn my flush and the board paired and both of the other players wasted no time getting chips in.
      so I chickened out.

      but I wonder - if Player 1 was that strong, he would not have bet so big, right?
      I think I screwed this up every possible way.
      Including not squeezing pre-flop.
  • 6 replies
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
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      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 6,858
      headsup we can probably jam nearly all the time but vs bet and raise it gets kinda tough...
      still what can be their ranges here? i guess some stats help
    • faronel
      faronel
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      Joined: 13.07.2011 Posts: 1,186
      Without knowing the villain stats, can't tell much, but versus random UTG, I would 3bet here. You don't want to play out of position versus two players.

      But as played preflop, on flop I would lead out for fold equity and if called, we have a chance for great improvement on turn.
    • William340
      William340
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      Joined: 10.02.2012 Posts: 170
      sorry for leaving these out.
      by the time I was done fooling w/ the hand converter & figuring out how to hide the spoiler, I forgot the stats.
      added in first post as well.

      ***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Merge)
      $4.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, April 28, 12:53:02 ET 2012
      Table Havana (54183064) (Real Money)
      Seat 2 is the button
      Seat 1: Player1 ( $4.60 USD ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 10, 3B: 10, AF: 3.0, Hands: 48
      Seat 2: Player2 ( $5.32 USD ) - VPIP: 11, PFR: 7, 3B: 2, AF: 4.0, Hands: 133
      Seat 3: Hero ( $4.71 USD ) - VPIP: 14, PFR: 8, 3B: 2, AF: 2.8, Hands: 11511
      Seat 4: Player4 ( $5.38 USD ) - VPIP: 15, PFR: 6, 3B: 2, AF: 4.8, Hands: 354
      Seat 5: Player5 ( $4.00 USD ) - VPIP: 11, PFR: 9, 3B: 2, AF: 3.4, Hands: 625
      Seat 6: Player6 ( $4.74 USD ) - VPIP: 39, PFR: 35, 3B: 0, AF: 1.5, Hands: 23
      Seat 7: Player7 ( $4.86 USD ) - VPIP: 14, PFR: 9, 3B: 0, AF: 1.5, Hands: 482
      Seat 8: Player8 ( $2.93 USD ) - VPIP: 34, PFR: 18, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 38
      Seat 9: Player9 ( $4.08 USD ) - VPIP: 40, PFR: 16, 3B: 10, AF: 1.7, Hands: 124
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello William340,

      Welcome to the English NL Hand Evaluation Forum! Hopefully we will see more hands from you in the future. I hope that with our help you can improve your play and as well move up the limits. We will be waiting for the next hands and till that good luck on tables!

      Flop: Not to make it look like a very strong move with your Check/Raise you could as well just lead out which also avoids them Checking behind and can always decided what to do. Cause as played I'd most likely vs CO range who has even worse Kx hands there which could see weakness in the Bet size and raise for protection I'd just 3bet it.

      As played
      Turn: Kind of dumb spot and once again we are in sandwich position and might be even safer to just leave the pot for the guy while Tx is also now possible or even stronger hands.

      Best Regards.
    • William340
      William340
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      Joined: 10.02.2012 Posts: 170
      thanks, Veriz!
      I watched all of your microstakes coachings in the video section since joining.
      hoping to attend some live if I can work out the timing.
      I'm sure I will have lots more hands.

      one more question about this one:
      what is your opinion on the preflop play?
      do you think the overcall was alright, as I was getting great odds to see the flop w/ a drawing hand?
      or should I have squeezed for value or to thin the field?

      I guess I was afraid of creating a big pot OOP and then seing the flop come something horrible like 5c6c7s.
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      what is your opinion on the preflop play?

      Preflop is totally fine as long we also have even suited AK, with AKo it's rather a squeeze while AKo ain't good for multiway pots.