[NL20-NL50] 3-Bet turn

    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
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      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players


      BTN: $27.46 (109.8 bb)
      SB: $40.20 (160.8 bb)
      BB: $8.74 (35 bb)
      UTG: $51.58 (206.3 bb) 40/14/0.7/4.3/36/138
      MP: $34.27 (137.1 bb)
      Hero (CO): $25.39 (101.6 bb) 19/16/6.0/0.0/50/70

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 5 5
      UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.75

      Flop: ($2.35) 5 4 8 (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $1.75, UTG calls $1.75

      Turn: ($5.85) 8 (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $3.75, UTG raises to $7.50, Hero calls $3.75

      I think its obvious he has a flush now, should I 3-Bet and get it in here itself?

      River: ($20.85) 5 (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $7.25, UTG calls $7.25

      The river just ruins it cause flushes aren't too strong anymore. So I decide to bet really less with hopes of flushes calling. Should I bet strong anyway? I don't think check/raise will work cause he might check behind. I was really confused what to do here to maximize value.
  • 6 replies
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
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      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 6,858
      Originally posted by maheepsangari
      Turn: ($5.85) 8 (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $3.75, UTG raises to $7.50, Hero calls $3.75

      I think its obvious he has a flush now, should I 3-Bet and get it in here itself?
      yeah. minraises by stations usually mean that they are very excited to ship the monies :D
      i'd at least click back over his raise which achieves two things:
      - lets him shove over right there
      - lets you easily shove river

      most likely i'd just shove or raise 2x though, depends on how loose i see him calling. these players often can't fold a flush even if they think they're beat.
    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
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      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      On the turn I decided that I would check/raise the river and get it in there as I had just about $15 left. Infact if I checked the river and he made a decent bet it would be close to $15 in a $20 pot and I thought it won't be difficult to get it in on the river, however I don't have position so if he checks behind the river I'll miss out major value, I know he has a flush on the turn and he thinks its strong so I should just 3-Bet the turn and get it over with like you said. Hmmmm...
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
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      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 6,858
      how are you going to c/r the river in position ?(
      i mean, he's UTG and you're CO. or is something wrong here ?(

      anyway if you were OOP it'd be an even stronger case to 3bet turn since there are some "action killer" cards. (some , double paired board as it happened)
      it'd suck for one of these to come by the river and then you can't know if he will check behind
    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
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      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      Oh shit sorry, I got confused with some other hand.

      Yeah I planned to raise his bet on the river if he didn't bet enough.
    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
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      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      And yeah if I was OOP then 3-Betting would make more sense there too. Either way I should have 3-Bet. Ok.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Hi,

      if he has there flush he may get away on 8 and 5 river cards (only 3 combos). Also if he has there low flush then higher flush cards 7 cards are also bad for him. So if you think he is not bluffing I like 3-betting turn to 12$ to make sure all the money goes in on the turn.

      best regards,