5nl my graph + need some advice

    • crazy808z
      crazy808z
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      Hey so this is my graph for nl5 first 16k hands at 2nlZOOM
      soon i realized this is stunting my growth as a player so i redposited
      read some strat and had a crack at 5nl 6max my current winrate is 6.6ptbb

      now i would like to know when to move up to nl10 and another thing my redline just recently ive started to float alot more vs regs curious should i be doing this at these stakes? any advice would be great thank you my stats are 21/16
      6max
  • 12 replies
    • UPAY4DINNER
      UPAY4DINNER
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      Hi there,

      I've moved your thread to our dedicated board.

      Best regards,
      Gary
    • crazy808z
      crazy808z
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      nobody has any ideas on when i should move up???
    • totte1992
      totte1992
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      Originally posted by crazy808z
      nobody has any ideas on when i should move up???
      There is no big difference between nl5 and 10 so move up when you got the roll for it and feel confidence :)
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Originally posted by crazy808z
      nobody has any ideas on when i should move up???
      Hi,

      If you feel comfortable with the bankroll you have and with your game, move up.

      You could always take a shot and post stats + hands from that to get advice. You can also post more info of stats from your NL5 hands so you can plug some leaks here and there before moving up.

      Cheers.
    • crodady
      crodady
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      Imo 30 BI is optimal for micro limits ..

      GL on nlT sir
    • Castle93
      Castle93
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      Personally I play NL10 with 20BI and that's pretty for me, so I think your well covered to move up buddy
    • crazy808z
      crazy808z
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      few hands from nl10 advice on lines would be great

      PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

      SB: $11.13
      BB: $10.00
      UTG: $11.16
      Hero (MP): $10.93
      CO: $6.36
      BTN: $13.14

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Ad Ah

      fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.80, fold, Hero calls $0.50

      Flop: ($1.70, 2 players) 4d 9s 8h
      SB bets $1.21, Hero calls $1.21

      Turn: ($4.12, 2 players) Jc
      SB bets $2.94, Hero raises to $8.92 and is all-in, SB calls $5.98

      River: ($21.96, 2 players) 7d

      SB shows Qh Qd (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 18%, Flop 10%, Turn 14%)
      Hero shows Ad Ah (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 82%, Flop 90%, Turn 86%)
      Hero wins $20.97


      PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

      BTN: $11.40
      SB: $29.28
      Hero (BB): $14.18
      UTG: $28.22
      CO: $14.76

      SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10, BTN posts ante $0.02, SB posts ante $0.02, Hero posts ante $0.02, UTG posts ante $0.02, CO posts ante $0.02

      Pre Flop: ($0.25) Hero has Ac Kh

      fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.30, SB raises to $1.10, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, SB raises to $6.10, Hero raises to $14.16 and is all-in, SB calls $8.06

      Flop: ($28.72, 2 players) 5d 8s 3s

      Turn: ($28.72, 2 players) 3h

      River: ($28.72, 2 players) As

      SB shows Th Ks (One Pair, Threes) (Pre 26%, Flop 16%, Turn 7%)
      Hero shows Ac Kh (Two Pair, Aces and Threes) (Pre 74%, Flop 84%, Turn 93%)
      Hero wins $27.43



      PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

      Hero (UTG): $11.44
      MP: $10.00
      CO: $11.85
      BTN: $10.00
      SB: $10.72
      BB: $10.92

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Qs Qh

      Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, BTN raises to $1.00, SB raises to $2.40, fold, fold, BTN raises to $10.00 and is all-in, SB calls $7.60

      Flop: ($20.40, 2 players) 7d 5s 4s

      Turn: ($20.40, 2 players) 9s

      River: ($20.40, 2 players) 2d

      SB shows Jc Js (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 54%, Flop 75%, Turn 91%)
      BTN shows Kh Ah (High Card, Ace) (Pre 46%, Flop 25%, Turn 9%)
      SB wins $19.48


      i think this spot is usally a good fold?



      PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

      Hero (BB): $11.28
      UTG: $10.00
      MP: $11.33
      CO: $10.51
      BTN: $19.75
      SB: $11.01

      SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 7h 4c

      fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.70, SB calls $0.50

      Flop: ($1.40, 2 players) Td 9c 5c
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.90, SB calls $0.90

      Turn: ($3.20, 2 players) 6h
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.60, SB raises to $3.80, Hero calls $2.20

      River: ($10.80, 2 players) 9h
      SB checks, Hero bets $5.88 and is all-in, fold

      Hero wins $10.31

      bluffynit
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Hand 1 AA:

      Calling pre is fine but I think 4betting will be better vs aggressive action of what will most often be a passive opponent. This is because he likes his hand a lot which means he is willing to put in lots of money with it. On the flop though, he can be scared by lots of cards. I would only call when I know he is just a maniac who will ship it in postflop more often that not.

      As played pre, you can also raise flop but it's not a must. Turn though I think it's a must raise: he shows he has a strong hand already, you have him beat often, you don't want action killing rivers, you ship it in. Nh, wp!

      Hand 2 AK:

      You can 4bet just a few BBs bigger since you are deep. After 4bet, the hand plays itself. Don't 4bet/fold AK, you need some monster reads to do so. If you think it's a 4bet "to take down the pot" you are turning it into a bluff. You need your opponent to either call often with a weaker hand or shove with a wide enough range. Wp again.

      Hand 3 QQ:

      Readless, I think your fold is fine. BU 3bets UTG which is strong and SB 4bets BU which is again strong. Best case for you is against AK but apart from AK one of them will very often have KK+.

      Hand 4 74:

      In order to 3bet it pre you need to know your opponent folds >67% of the time and has a reasonably wide range pre. Else it's just a fold preflop. When called, check and give up with your air. When he calls he is not that weak + you have no equity whatsoever.

      Since you said he is a bluffy nit just fold preflop for 2 reasons:
      1. He is a nit, he has a tight range.
      2. He will make moves postflop when you have 74o. That's bad for you. You want him to make moves when you have AA. :)
    • Castle93
      Castle93
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      As emanuel has said

      Hand 1 : 4 bet is better but as you just called pre flop I like your play post flop

      Hand 2: personally 140BB deep with AK vs a raise and a 3 bet I'll just fold it pre you ain't Gunna be ahead that much, best case is Gunna be qq the majority unless the guys a complete maniac

      Hand 3: good fold, your only
      Invested 3BB no point in getting involved, why would you choose to be on a position where at best your racing as a very slight favourite or complete crushed

      Hand 4: I would just fold pre, if your Gunna 3 bet bluff at least do it with hands which either have equity after the flop or hands with blockers like Ax, Kx hands
    • crazy808z
      crazy808z
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      few more hands by the way thanks for the advice

      PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

      SB: $7.35
      BB: $15.57
      UTG: $5.39
      MP: $4.64
      CO: $10.00
      Hero (BTN): $10.00

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Qh Qs

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, BB calls $0.30

      Flop: ($0.85, 2 players) 3d Kd 5s
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50

      Turn: ($1.85, 2 players) Tc
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.80, BB raises to $2.30, Hero calls $1.50

      River: ($6.45, 2 players) Kc
      BB bets $3.40, Hero calls $3.40

      BB shows As 6d (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 29%, Flop 19%, Turn 7%)
      Hero shows Qh Qs (Two Pair, Kings and Queens) (Pre 71%, Flop 81%, Turn 93%)
      Hero wins $12.65


      PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

      SB: $10.92
      BB: $10.96
      UTG: $10.00
      MP: $9.40
      CO: $33.67
      Hero (BTN): $11.60

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Ks Kc

      fold, fold, CO raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.10, fold, fold, CO calls $0.80

      Flop: ($2.35, 2 players) 2s 6s 3c
      CO checks, Hero bets $1.30, CO calls $1.30

      Turn: ($4.95, 2 players) 9d
      CO checks, Hero bets $2.40, CO raises to $11.10, Hero calls $6.80 and is all-in

      River: ($23.35, 2 players) 5s

      CO shows Tc Td (One Pair, Tens) (Pre 19%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
      Hero shows Ks Kc (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 81%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
      Hero wins $22.30

      this hand was against a 19/16 i had position and the hand before i 4bet ak and he folded so i think he was a little titled




      PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

      MP: $21.68
      CO: $35.27
      BTN: $29.22
      Hero (SB): $13.53
      BB: $12.10
      UTG: $17.02

      Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10, MP posts ante $0.02, CO posts ante $0.02, BTN posts ante $0.02, Hero posts ante $0.02, BB posts ante $0.02, UTG posts ante $0.02

      Pre Flop: ($0.27) Hero has Ks Kh

      fold, MP raises to $0.40, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, MP calls $1.10

      Flop: ($3.22, 2 players) Ac 2s 8d
      Hero bets $1.40, MP calls $1.40

      Turn: ($6.02, 2 players) Js
      Hero checks, MP checks

      River: ($6.02, 2 players) 5s
      Hero checks, MP bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50

      MP shows Jh Jd (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 95%)
      Hero mucks Ks Kh (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 5%)
      MP wins $16.25

      this hand he was 65/32 over 40 hands maniac pretty spewy call by me


      PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

      SB: $10.55
      BB: $8.11
      Hero (UTG): $10.32
      CO: $14.11
      BTN: $16.16

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 4d 4s

      Hero raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, fold, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

      Flop: ($1.20, 4 players) Js 4c As
      SB bets $0.60, BB calls $0.60, Hero calls $0.60, CO raises to $2.37, SB calls $1.77, fold, Hero raises to $9.70, fold, fold

      Hero wins $8.51

      this hand please thoughts i think abit to aggresive
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      Hand 1 QQ:

      I don't like your turn bet. It's way too small and apart from that you don't get value from that much. Either check back flop and bet turn and river (or call depending on cards and sizing from opponent) or bet flop, bet 2/3 on the turn not less than half pot. Vs fishy player I prefer the second option, vs reg-ish player I like the first one since the reg will be more inclined to bluff once you check flop.

      Hand 2 KK:

      Nh, wp! Nothing to say about it.

      Hand 3 KK:

      You cbet so small you actually tell him you have a weak hand. Rather c/c once, bluffcatch if he is not going to call light vs a normal bet. River again is a snap fold, he is not betting QQ there you don't beat anything. Folding to big bets and check/raises will add at least 1bb/100 when you have this kind of marginal hands.

      Hand 4 44:

      I think it's better if you raise flop yourself. First of all, you want to get value, the pot is not that big and you have a hand that wants to get it in. Second of all, calling and backraising looks way stronger than raising a 1/2 pot donkbet so you will get less action from Ax and probably only from 2 pair+.
    • crazy808z
      crazy808z
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      ausom advice emaunuel