[NL2-NL10] Nl10 - 040612 snapping with QQ

    • faronel
      faronel
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.07.2011 Posts: 1,186
      PartyGaming - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      CO: $2.46
      Hero (BTN): $10.26
      SB: $10.05
      BB: $12.86
      UTG: $9.70
      UTG+1: $10.46
      MP: $17.19
      MP+1: $6.33

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Q:diamond: Q:club:

      UTG raises to $0.40, fold, fold, MP+1 calls $0.40, fold, Hero raises to $1.60, fold, BB calls $1.50, UTG calls $1.20, MP+1 raises to $6.33 and is all-in, Hero raises to $10.26 and is all-in, fold, fold

      Flop: ($15.91, 2 players) 3:diamond: 3:heart: 3:spade:

      Turn: ($15.91, 2 players) K:diamond:

      River: ($15.91, 2 players) 7:heart:


      Hero shows Q:diamond: Q:club: (Full House, Threes full of Queens)
      MP+1 mucks Q:spade: A:spade: (Three of a Kind, Threes)
      Hero wins $0.00
      Hero wins $15.12


      After villain's call of that initial raise, his shove didn't make any sense. I put him on a steal with any upper range hands (99+, AJs+) and snapped. I think that I would have called the full stack too. However, second opinion?
  • 3 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello faronel,

      Vs MP1 we are never folding here and we should definitely ship it. But what should you be scared of here is the BB flat + also UTG flat behind it (which could be a trap and at the same time could be a weak hand), BB is more towards having a trap hand if he is a reg-type of player.

      Also what you should be asking here is if you really can do the 3bet for value vs UTG, against what kind of opponent are you against?

      Best Regards.
    • faronel
      faronel
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.07.2011 Posts: 1,186
      UTG was 20/20 guy, so no much credit to his UTG raise.

      BB was unknown and his rather strange call of my 3bet OOP concerned me also, but he could have been playing for a set mine vs my range?

      All in all, is it the best spot to as played, e.g. ship or should I lay it down and leave it to BB-UTG?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      BB was unknown and his rather strange call of my 3bet OOP concerned me also, but he could have been playing for a set mine vs my range?

      He can't really set-mine profitable with such a play.

      All in all, is it the best spot to as played, e.g. ship or should I lay it down and leave it to BB-UTG?

      As long I went for the 3bet-value I doubt I would be planning to fold my hand here, just ship it.