[NL20-NL50] NL50: AK, allin decision on flop

    • Zeffke
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      Titan Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

      saw flop | saw showdown

      Button ($50.10)
      SB Hero ($51.00)
      BB ($52.30)
      UTG UTG ($23.23)
      UTG+1 ($48.89)

      Preflop: Hero is in the SB with K:diamond: A:heart:
      UTG calls 0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to 2.50, 1 fold, UTG calls 2.00.

      Flop (5.75) 8:heart: 4:heart: 5:heart:
      Hero bets 3.80, UTG moves all-in for 20.73, Hero calls 16.93

      this is standard, isn't it?
  • 11 replies
    • sw0ldo
      sw0ldo
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      yep
    • gAAss
      gAAss
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      Originally posted by Zeffke

      this is standard, isn't it?
      definetly.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Against pair it is call, but I´m not sure that UTG would push with draw or one pair hand here. I would most likely put him on set. Depends a lot to the villain, imo it is not 100% autocall.
    • sw0ldo
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      lol you can't realy just polarize his range to a set, he could have anything (any heart, top pair, small overpair etc)
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Originally posted by sw0ldo
      lol you can't realy just polarize his range to a set, he could have anything (any heart, top pair, small overpair etc)
      Depends on the player- these pushes are a lot to protect their hand not to get us fold.
    • gAAss
      gAAss
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      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      Originally posted by sw0ldo
      lol you can't realy just polarize his range to a set, he could have anything (any heart, top pair, small overpair etc)
      Depends on the player- these pushes are a lot to protect their hand not to get us fold.
      Definetly, but the board is so connected that there are many other posible hands:6hX,3hX,A8, K8,78 with one heart ans so forth.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Originally posted by gAAss
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      Originally posted by sw0ldo
      lol you can't realy just polarize his range to a set, he could have anything (any heart, top pair, small overpair etc)
      Depends on the player- these pushes are a lot to protect their hand not to get us fold.
      Definetly, but the board is so connected that there are many other posible hands:6hX,3hX,A8, K8,78 with one heart ans so forth.
      Depends on the UTG playing style. Against tag you could throw away most of your hands.
    • whipflip15
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      Against set you have 30% equity and your getting 1:1.8 on you money to if add in some more hands (over pairs and such) the call becomes profitable
    • 8412king
      8412king
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      My fast calculation. Call 16.93 to win 47.21 on flop is realy good odds. You need to win 36% of the time. If you think he has worse than two pair 15% of the time you have desent odds and even better odds if he is able to move in with hands like AK with king of hearts.
    • theloniousbones
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      I agree with Kaitz, but I still think this is a call most of the time.

      UTG limp/call/push just screams set, but I think that's also a good reason to read bluff. It all depends on instinct against your opponent. Without reads I'll fold here, but if he seems LAG or even Loose-Passive I'll insta-call.
    • sw0ldo
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      This is an easy call 100% of the time, its not even close.