0.5/1 FR - The hardest limit there is

    • CoreySteel
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      Topic name is kinda joke, but hell! :)

      I just can't break even at 0.5/1. Don't know whats the problem, though.
      This was my third attempt at this limit. I am winning player at 0.25/0.5 and I have no problem reaching 300-350$ for next limit.
      At the moment at 0.25/0.5 in 1200 hands I again made 45$, which is cca. 15BB/100. Ok I now it's not realistic :) , but anyway, I don't have problems with this low limits until 0.5/1.

      I play FR.
      I don't remember how many hands I played, but I had ~-1.2BB/100 and I lost ~120$. So I guess ~10000 hands. Enough to realize, I'm not ready for that limit :)

      I was thinking to move to SH 0.5/1 instead of FR. There are only few FR tables at Party, so maybe SH would be fishier. Of course I'd need BR of 500$.
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    • frzl
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      i like the sh thought
      but don´t switch directly from 0,25/0,50fr to 0,5/1sh... play 0,25/0,5sh. maybe at stars or something.

      now the standard answer:
      - 0,5/1 is full of fishes and easy to beat
      - just play more hands
      - stick to the brm
      - keep reading articles, watching videos, listening to postings and posting hands (!)
      - don´t get desperate

      :) :)
    • CoreySteel
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      Originally posted by frzl
      i like the sh thought
      but don´t switch directly from 0,25/0,50fr to 0,5/1sh... play 0,25/0,5sh. maybe at stars or something.
      I'm not really keen of moving to another site :/ Well, if that's the only way...

      Originally posted by frzl
      - 0,5/1 is full of fishes and easy to beat
      Maybe, but on Party there are only 6-8 FR tables. Usually even less.

      Originally posted by frzl
      - just play more hands
      I played a lot of hands :P Look at my registration date :D
      I made 2 cashouts. They were of course a mistake, but anyway... I guess I'd have bigger BR ATM, if there were no cahs outs... :P

      Originally posted by frzl
      - stick to the brm
      Of course.

      Originally posted by frzl
      - keep reading articles, watching videos, listening to postings and posting hands (!)
      Doing.

      Originally posted by frzl
      - don´t get desperate
      Never. I'm to stubborn. :)

      Originally posted by frzl
      :) :)
      :D
    • Dippy19
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      Originally posted by CoreySteel
      I was thinking to move to SH 0.5/1 instead of FR. There are only few FR tables at Party, so maybe SH would be fishier. Of course I'd need BR of 500$.
      If there are too few tables then you should think about moving to stars. There are enough tables there(especially in the evening) and it's easier to find a fishy table, mostly because it shows both the average players per flop and average pot.

      If you are interested in my proposal from the other thread and the only problem is you don't use skype, maybe we could communicate in some other way, MSN?

      Anyway let me know.
    • CoreySteel
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      Well... I guess I'll really move to pokerstars...
      I heard just good things about it. And I like that VIP Shop too :D
    • CoreySteel
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      Great... Now I can't register to Stars because apparently, I already have an account there. Which I don't have...
      Let's see what support can do about this :)
    • frzl
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      sucks to be you ;)
    • CoreySteel
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      lol...
      Well it's not so bad at all :P
      These things are just little obstacles on my marvelous poker career :)
      I guess Poker(Strategy)God is testing me, if I'm willing to do everything, to become successful :D
    • frzl
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      sounds like a plan..

      btw: i guess you don´t have pokertracker yet, do you ? ^^
    • CoreySteel
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      No I don't have. Maybe I got the license, but I don't know where it is.
      I was using Poker Office and now I'm using PokerStrategy Elephant. Need 500 more points for license.

      Why?
    • frzl
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      well i don´t know the other programs but with pokertracker it would be absolutely no problem to review, copy, convert and post the handhistory after you have finished your session using ftr.com or something.
      how many lifetime pokerstrategy points do you have ? i think you should have pt already :)

      we are quite off topic btw :D
    • PokerHammer
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      Originally posted by CoreySteel
      Great... Now I can't register to Stars because apparently, I already have an account there. Which I don't have...
      Let's see what support can do about this :)
      Did you ever have a play money account? I think that could be the problem if you did.
    • CoreySteel
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      Originally posted by frzl
      well i don´t know the other programs but with pokertracker it would be absolutely no problem to review, copy, convert and post the handhistory after you have finished your session using ftr.com or something.
      how many lifetime pokerstrategy points do you have ? i think you should have pt already :)

      we are quite off topic btw :D
      Lifetime StrategyPoints: 4 394
      There were no problem posting hands until elephant 0.47 :) I'll just wait for an update.

      Originally posted by PokerHammer
      Originally posted by CoreySteel
      Great... Now I can't register to Stars because apparently, I already have an account there. Which I don't have...
      Let's see what support can do about this :)
      Did you ever have a play money account? I think that could be the problem if you did.
      Like I said. I've never registered to PokerStars before.
    • CoreySteel
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      Originally posted by PokerHammer
      Originally posted by CoreySteel
      Great... Now I can't register to Stars because apparently, I already have an account there. Which I don't have...
      Let's see what support can do about this :)
      Did you ever have a play money account? I think that could be the problem if you did.
      Apparently I have. But I didn't register. Not me personally.
      Too bad. They offer great things and they have lots of tables :(
    • CoreySteel
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      OK and now I hit 300$ mark... Again... This time in 4k hands with ~10BB/100.
      And now I'm in dilemma... Again...

      1. Should I keep on playing on Party at 0.25/0.50 FR till death?
      2. Should I try again (fourth time) at 0.50/1.00 FR at Party when I hit ~350$.
      3. Should I go to PokerStars to 0.25/0.50 FR and later 0.25/0.50 SH, but I won't be tracked to PS.com and therefor get no SP points.
      4. Should I go to 0.50/1.00 SH at Party when I hit ~500$?
      5. Any other advice would be appreciated.
    • sismis
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      I am not FL expert, but i remember that i had problems at that limit too so i switched to NL afterwards. but couple of weeks ago i played some of it for recreational purpose. and i noticed it is not enough you only play your cards but you have to be more opponent oriented. you have to push them around and fight back to overagressive A-high-reraise-river fishes to really punish them.
    • CoreySteel
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      Of course. But it's problem, because on Party there are only 4-6 (maximum 8) FR 0.5/1 tables. Not enough.
      For example. ATM there are 6 tables. 2 of them are Jackpot. Therefor - not many fishes around. They are playing SH tables. More fun :P

      I would move to PokerStars in a heartbeat, but my account isn't linked here and that bothers me :evil:

      But anyway, I will probably:
      - wait to hit 2000 SP after 1st of April (for elephant)
      - wait to hit 2500 Party/Reward/Loyalty/Whatever/Points to get additional 25$ from PP
      - Withdraw x - 300$ and deposit to PokerStars and wait that someday, I could retrack my account :P

      At current limit, I'd need 2 weeks for this.
      And if I play 0.5/1, I'd need something like 3 days for this :P
    • ciRith
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      Originally posted by CoreySteel
      Of course. But it's problem, because on Party there are only 4-6 (maximum 8) FR 0.5/1 tables. Not enough.
      For example. ATM there are 6 tables. 2 of them are Jackpot. Therefor - not many fishes around. They are playing SH tables. More fun :P

      I would move to PokerStars in a heartbeat, but my account isn't linked here and that bothers me :evil:

      But anyway, I will probably:
      - wait to hit 2000 SP after 1st of April (for elephant)
      - wait to hit 2500 Party/Reward/Loyalty/Whatever/Points to get additional 25$ from PP
      - Withdraw x - 300$ and deposit to PokerStars and wait that someday, I could retrack my account :P

      At current limit, I'd need 2 weeks for this.
      And if I play 0.5/1, I'd need something like 3 days for this :P
      Beat 0.5/1 at Stars and come back to PP. :D
    • henne007
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      why don't you go to titan? you have just enough to cleat the hole bonus, plus they have 0,25/0,5 SH.
      there will be fewer tables then on stars i guess but your account will still be retracked.
    • Dippy19
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      Originally posted by henne007
      why don't you go to titan? you have just enough to cleat the hole bonus, plus they have 0,25/0,5 SH.
      there will be fewer tables then on stars i guess but your account will still be retracked.
      God no! I was thinking of going to Titan and did a bit of scouting at the FL tables, at FR 0,5$/1$ it gets really tight.

      Originally posted by sismis
      i noticed it is not enough you only play your cards but you have to be more opponent oriented. you have to push them around and fight back to overagressive A-high-reraise-river fishes to really punish them.
      I agree completely, playing less tables and thous concentrating on the opponents more helps a lot.