[NL2-NL10] NL10 AK preflop all in 10/05

    • allen82082
      allen82082
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      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      MP2:
      $19.23
      Hero:
      $4.15
      BU:
      $10

      0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.106 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A:heart: , K:diamond:
      3 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, CO folds, BU raises to $1.20, 3 folds, Hero raises to $4.15 (All-In), BU calls $2.95.

      Flop: ($8.55) A:diamond: , Q:spade: , 9:club:
      Turn: ($8.55) 9:diamond:
      River: ($8.55) 8:heart: (2 players)


      Final Pot: $8.55

      In fact i do not like play AK in this way at NL10.I have be told that AK preflop shove use to balancing AA KK in high table.But in NL10 NL25 AK shove preflop is -EV.Just like the hand see blow:
      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      MP1: $5.05 (50.5 bb)
      MP2: $4.83 (48.3 bb)
      MP3: $5.89 (58.9 bb)
      CO: $9.34 (93.4 bb)
      BTN: $10 (100 bb)
      SB: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
      Hero (BB): $4.92 (49.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
      MP1 raises to $0.20, 5 folds, Hero raises to $0.80, MP1 raises to $1.40, Hero raises to $4.92 and is all-in, MP1 calls $3.52

      Flop: ($9.89) 2 6 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: ($9.89) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($9.89) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results: $9.89 pot ($0.44 rake)


      Though the opponent is loose,32/14/0.0/22.I think his range still ahead me.Even he has 99 also beat me.
  • 6 replies
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      I will shove no1 hand and no2 hand.
      no1 you can make BU's PP and even JJ. and even called, you have enough odds. I don't like call BU's 3 bet because I don't want see 3 bottom card like
      48T.

      no2 same reason and suited is better.

      if it's BSS, I think it's wrong but in MSS, it's correct.
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Originally posted by allen82082
      In fact i do not like play AK in this way at NL10.I have be told that AK preflop shove use to balancing AA KK in high table.But in NL10 NL25 AK shove preflop is -EV.Just like the hand see blow:
      Can you explain to me why you think it is -EV? Because to me it is +EV to play AK here instead of not playing (0EV)

      The hands you posted are not so important actually, it is your thinking that needs to be fixed

      - Gerv
    • allen82082
      allen82082
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      Joined: 08.06.2011 Posts: 1,682
      AK is behind any PPS,i do not think a guy who open and 4bet with AQ AJ often.
      maybe in high table them will do in this way but in NL10,i think ak shove face 4bet is -EV.


      Though EV is 15.59 but i do not think it can prove AK shove is +ev.
      So i let my friend give me them AK.
      i post them in next post.
    • allen82082
      allen82082
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    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Hey,

      You see the sample hands? it is around 100 which is not representing long term EV ;)

      Since you already have put x money in the pot, you need less pot odds to be profitable. Since AK has guaranteed equity and is a strong hand preflop, we want to use this equity to make +EV situations over and over again:

      ''You need 40% equity, you have 45% with AKo, do you go all-in?''

      Yes we do because we have a 5% equity difference that gives us profit. Doing this over and over again gives us profit

      I think you are more worried about the variance with AK rather than playing AK

      - Gerv
    • allen82082
      allen82082
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      Joined: 08.06.2011 Posts: 1,682
      You see the sample hands? it is around 100 which is not representing long term EV

      Yes i think the amount of hands is too small.Could i see the profit of your AK shove in preflop?