[NL2-NL10] 25NL QJo bluff following street

    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,867
      Party, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $10 (100 bb)
      MP3: $4.47 (44.7 bb)
      MP1: $12.12 (121.2 bb)
      CO: $6.43 (64.3 bb)
      SB: $12.37 (123.7 bb)
      Hero (BB): $4.20 (42 bb)
      MP2: $3 (30 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q J
      5 folds, SB raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.20

      Flop: ($0.60) 9 Q 6 (2 players)
      SB bets $0.42, Hero calls $0.42

      Turn: ($1.44) A (2 players)
      SB bets $0.70, Hero raises to $1.40, SB folds

      Results: $2.84 pot ($0.14 rake)
      Final Board: 9 Q 6 A
      SB mucked and lost (-$1.42 net)
      Hero mucked Q J and won $2.70 ($1.28 net)

      I thought I can get profit from 16/14 villains in position so I called.
      and on flop I called because I hit.
      on turn his bet seemed to show villain have Qx or some pair so I minraised.
      Is it profitable?
  • 5 replies
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Originally posted by Gonchan
      I thought I can get profit from 16/14 villains in position so I called.
      Hello

      Can you explain to me as thorough as possible why you think you can make profit

      Let me know & thanks :)

      - Gerv
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      He will CB on Q high flop( though he sometimes have AQ,KQ) so I'll still ahead his range.
      And turn's half bet on this board shows he want to give up his hand(especially
      Q high hand with good kicker)or even Ax..

      However, I notice he can call if he have Ax and I'll isolate better hand than make good hand fold.
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Originally posted by Gonchan
      He will CB on Q high flop( though he sometimes have AQ,KQ) so I'll still ahead his range.
      And turn's half bet on this board shows he want to give up his hand(especially
      Q high hand with good kicker)or even Ax..

      However, I notice he can call if he have Ax and I'll isolate better hand than make good hand fold.
      Ofcourse when we hit a Qxx board, we are mostly gin but my question was referring to the broader picture in general

      What makes you think you can grind a profit on boards that are not easy to play (that is non Jxx ,Qxx boards)
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Additional stats
      CB 100 af flop 10 turn 2

      So Jx board, I'll call as I don't want to see over card QKA
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Originally posted by Gonchan
      Additional stats
      CB 100 af flop 10 turn 2

      So Jx board, I'll call as I don't want to see over card QKA

      Seems you missed my question again so I will just explain what I wanted to say:
      I do not really like calling QJo here preflop. You are equity wise behind against PP, Kx, Ax but more importantly you will face cBets about 99% of the times on the Flop. What you gonna do when you DONT hit?

      Did you devised a game plan that makes you profit if you just have Queen high? If so what is your plan?

      If you do not have a plan, you are just losing money so I rather want to 3bet preflop

      - Gerv