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[NL2-NL10] 4NL - 2nd nuts on river - call or shove?

    • William340
      Joined: 10.02.2012 Posts: 170
      $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
      9 Players
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      UTG Player3 ($4.26)
      UTG+1 Player4 ($3.89)
      MP1 Player5 ($4)
      MP2 Player6 ($4.06)
      MP3 Player7 ($5.20)- VPIP: 43, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 2.2, Hands: 40

      CO Player8 ($4)
      BTN William340 ($4.28)
      SB Player1 ($2.96)
      BB Player2 ($4)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 9 players) William340 is BTN 10:club: J:spade:
      4 folds, Player7 calls $0.04, 1 fold, William340 calls $0.04, Player1 calls $0.02, Player2 checks

      Flop: 7:spade: 9:club: J:club: ($0.16, 4 players)
      Player1 checks, Player2 checks, Player7 checks, William340 bets $0.10, Player1 folds, Player2 folds, Player7 calls $0.10

      Turn: 5:diamond: ($0.36, 2 players)
      Player7 checks, William340 bets $0.18, Player7 calls $0.18

      River: 8:heart: ($0.72, 2 players)
      Player7 bets $0.72,
      calls $0.72

      Final Pot: $2.16
      Player7 shows
      6:spade: 5:spade:
      William340 shows
      10:club: J:spade:

      William340 wins $2.06 (net +$1.02)

      Player1 lost $0.04
      Player2 lost $0.04
      Player7 lost $1.04

      I guess this is pretty bad for a number of reasons.
      a button raise preflop would have been a good idea.
      isolate the fish and play in position. bread & butter, right?

      but what to do on the river?
      Mr. Passive leads out for pot and suddenly visions of QT are dancing in mmy head.
      no way I'm going to fold, but is shoving a good idea here?
  • 2 replies
    • Imimba1
      Joined: 12.12.2011 Posts: 2,897
      I wouldn't raise it. He has a straight most likely, so you can't really raise for value, nor bluff.

      He could have many Tx hands, e.g. T9 and JT, so it's definately worth a call.
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello William340,

      Preflop: Perfect spot even to isolate while you have the position. :)

      As played
      Postflop: I'd Bet the turn bigger for protection and otherwise the river is rather just a Call, no point to raise while we don't hold the nuts.

      Best Regards.