this is why I can never guess opponents range

    • William340
      William340
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.02.2012 Posts: 170
      go on, try to put these guys on a range.
      UTG+1 minraise, MP2 min 3bets, BTN calls, UTG+1 calls.
      pretty standard.

      and notice, I would have gone runner-runner for the scoop. :f_p:

      $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
      Merge
      9 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG Player7 ($4.36)
      UTG+1 Player8 ($1.58)
      MP1 Player9 ($1.20)
      MP2 Player1 ($3.10)
      MP3 Player2 ($3.87)
      CO William340 ($4.56)
      BTN Player4 ($4.52)
      SB Player5 ($1.34)
      BB Player6 ($3.93)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 9 players) William340 is CO 7:heart: 8:spade:
      1 fold, Player8 raises to $0.08, 1 fold, Player1 raises to $0.12, 1 fold, William340 folds, Player4 calls $0.12, 2 folds, Player8 calls $0.04

      Flop: 2:heart: 2:club: K:heart: ($0.42, 3 players)
      Player8 checks, Player1 bets $2.98, Player4 folds, Player8 calls $1.46

      Turn: 7:diamond: ($3.34, 2 players)

      River: 7:spade: ($3.34, 2 players)

      Final Pot: $3.34

      Player1 shows
      A:heart: A:diamond:
      Player8 shows
      K:club: A:spade:

      Player1 wins $6.22 (net +$3.12)

      Player4 lost $0.12
      Player8 lost $1.58
  • 2 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      What seems to be the problem?

      Minraise + min3bet = fishy moves, they can have any 2 suited cards, any pair and broadways, maybe some funky offsuit connectors like 78o.

      If you have some stats you can reduce some of the hands knowing people play suited hands more than offsuit ones.

      They had the top of their range so it's no big deal. A limp or a minraise isn't capped if it's from a fish unless you have a certified sizing tell. :)

      Regards,
      Manu.
    • jonnyjm
      jonnyjm
      Silver
      Joined: 24.03.2008 Posts: 447
      Originally posted by EmanuelC16
      What seems to be the problem?

      Minraise + min3bet = fishy moves, they can have any 2 suited cards, any pair and broadways, maybe some funky offsuit connectors like 78o.
      enit.


      Player 1 is always going to have the strongest of the 3 ranges here. but ranges is going to be something like.

      Premiums (AA/KK/QQ+AK) < although this can be excluded for for player 4&8 as they would rarley just call pre with these (only AK sometimes). The rest of there range will be made up with hands like: 22-JJ, any 2 suited conectors, some suited one gappers, offsuite AJ/KJ/QJ hands, some A4s type hands and the ocasional funky K9os type hand.

      The all in on the flop is vary rarely a bluff imo so should only be called with any "2" + AK, KQ KJ, K10. Shoving the flop will normally be: any "2" AA/KK & K2-AK, with some Ah-Xh hands + any 2 hearts. Min y
      u need to call here is K-10 imo.