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[NL2-NL10] 87o against 17/5 calling station

    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,877
      Party, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $16.40 (164 bb)
      MP: $11.61 (116.1 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $3.85 (38.5 bb)
      BB: $10.29 (102.9 bb)
      CO: $3.65 (36.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 7
      MP folds, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, CO calls $0.30

      Flop: ($0.95) 8 4 T (2 players)
      CO checks, Hero bets $0.60, CO calls $0.60

      Turn: ($2.15) 5 (2 players)
      CO checks, Hero checks

      River: ($2.15) A (2 players)
      CO checks, Hero checks

      Results: $2.15 pot ($0.10 rake)
      Final Board: 8 4 T 5 A

      I thought he would fit or call cuz af are 0.5,0.3,1.5 so it's profitable.
      even in MSS, is this ok?
  • 5 replies
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Originally posted by Gonchan
      I thought he would fit or call cuz af are 0.5,0.3,1.5 so it's profitable.
      For me there is no correlation between AF & Fit/fold tendencies. do you know what AF/aggression factor is?

      Aside from the hand which I cannot judge on, I think you should restudy the statistics article that gives you a good grasp on what statistic tells you what

      - Gerv
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,877
      Is it not fit/fold but fit/call villains?I misunderstand
      and I thought I know where I stand with this hand, and if he hit he will bet or I can wait draw if he don't hit so I raised inposition.
      Is it also profitable even in MSS?
    • allen82082
      allen82082
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      Joined: 08.06.2011 Posts: 1,682
      Gonchan:
      I think in NL10 we shoule make our decision to be simpleness.
      We must do three things in NL10,preflop tight,postflop Vbet,brave fold.

      allen
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Originally posted by Gonchan
      Is it not fit/fold but fit/call villains?I misunderstand
      and I thought I know where I stand with this hand, and if he hit he will bet or I can wait draw if he don't hit so I raised inposition.
      Is it also profitable even in MSS?
      No the term is Fit or Fold; he either fits his hand and continues playing or he folds.

      Against those players it is highly profitable to raise with 87o. Against people who just randomly call pre & postflop, raising this is the worst thing you can do because you dont flop Toppair often

      So once again there is no correlation between AF & the way your opponent plays so I advice you to study the articles again to get a better understanding of how statistics work

      I foresee your opponent being loose-passive hence a more or less being a callingstation so raising 87o is a bad idea here

      - Gerv
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,877
      oh, I found statistics article on japanese article.
      Thanks for your advice, coach. I'll read it.