[NL20-NL50] Call or Shove flop?

    • maheepsangari
      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 3 Players
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      Hero (BTN): $25 (100 bb)
      SB: $29.57 (118.3 bb)
      BB: $32.25 (129 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with A Q
      Hero raises to $0.75, SB folds, BB calls $0.50

      Flop: ($1.60) 4 J Q (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $9.03, BB raises to $28.62, Hero calls $15.22 and is all-in

      I've always wondered what the right play would be here. He is giving me the correct odds to call but I feel that if I play passively, call and hit my flush later he might not pay me off since it might be obvious that I was playing a flush draw. So with TPTK+Nut Flush draw is it plus EV to shove in spots like these?

      Turn: ($50.10) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($50.10) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      $50.10 pot ($1 rake)
      Final Board: 4 J Q 2 4
      Hero showed A Q and lost (-$25 net)
      BB showed J Q and won $49.10 ($24.10 net)
  • 2 replies
    • Farmarchist
      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      I also go broke on the flop but I don't 3 bet that big... You want to leave some room for him.

      Vs his get it in range we have 44%. And when he folds sometimes to our 3bet or spews it's +ev
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello maheepsangari,

      The problem here is what's the purpose of the 3bet? Do you really think he is ever going to continue with worse hands here? Nor I don't really see why we should make bluffs or some semi-bluffs to fold. Rather keep his range wide and even weaker flush-draws in it. If we getting it in our equity isn't going to be very fantastic vs his 2pair+ range.

      Therefore I'd Bet/Call and reevaluate the further actions.

      Best Regards.