hitting 3 of a kind

    • romcey
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      what do you guys think about hitting 3 of a kind on the flop something like this.

      hole card 55
      flop 5s 3h as

      would you defend the pot by putting in a pot size rise or try to bet for value even the theirs a flush draw?
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    • evertonroar
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      more info needed. Did someone raise preflop? Are you up against one player? or 2,3,4,5,6? If its one player are the tag? lag? unknown? If there was a raise was it an ep raise? or was it someone raising on the button? is it blind V blind?

      so i guess the answer is - it depends
    • sileekhunt
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      Originally posted by romcey
      what do you guys think about hitting 3 of a kind on the flop something like this.

      hole card 55
      flop 5s 3h as

      would you defend the pot by putting in a pot size rise or try to bet for value even the theirs a flush draw?
      If you opened 55 & hit that flop then I would bet for value - quite large, between 3/4 & pot sized, he may even stack off himself with something like AK,AQ to protect his hand vs a flush draw....
    • romcey
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      lets say your on the co and you 3bet, bb calls his a lag player?

      same again but his tag

      or what about if you just join and you don't know?
    • romcey
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      Originally posted by sileekhunt
      Originally posted by romcey
      what do you guys think about hitting 3 of a kind on the flop something like this.

      hole card 55
      flop 5s 3h as

      would you defend the pot by putting in a pot size rise or try to bet for value even the theirs a flush draw?
      If you opened 55 & hit that flop then I would bet for value - quite large, between 3/4 & pot sized, he may even stack off himself with something like AK,AQ to protect his hand vs a flush draw....
      what happens if a spade come ups up and you bet first?
    • EmanuelC16
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      Hello romcey,

      It's impossible to give a good response about such a vague situation. As evertonroar pointed out, we need more info such as positions, effectiva stacks, preflop action, villain tendencies, etc.

      The answer to your exact question is you CAN bet for value although there are some situations where it isn't MaxEV to just bet yourself now.

      With regards to protection, it's a consequence of betting, not a reason and if a hand can't get value it's usually not worth 'protecting'. The are some exceptions where the value isn't clear cut but it's impossible to explain in a post.

      Regards,
      Manu.
    • romcey
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      ok thanks for the help
    • michel2311
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      Originally posted by EmanuelC16
      Hello romcey,

      It's impossible to give a good response about such a vague situation. As evertonroar pointed out, we need more info such as positions, effectiva stacks, preflop action, villain tendencies, etc.

      The answer to your exact question is you CAN bet for value although there are some situations where it isn't MaxEV to just bet yourself now.

      With regards to protection, it's a consequence of betting, not a reason and if a hand can't get value it's usually not worth 'protecting'. The are some exceptions where the value isn't clear cut but it's impossible to explain in a post.

      Regards,
      Manu.
      Completely agree!!! Just read the OP and would post the same here.