[NL20-NL50] NL25 nuts on the turn?

    • xoshix33
      xoshix33
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.09.2011 Posts: 348
      PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (BTN): $25.00
      SB: $12.60
      BB: $77.00
      UTG: $15.12
      MP: $31.13
      CO: $13.40

      SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K:club: 7:club:

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.62, fold, BB calls $0.37

      Flop: ($1.34, 2 players) 6:spade: A:club: 3:club:
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.85, BB raises to $1.70, Hero calls $0.85

      Turn: ($4.74, 2 players) 5:club:
      BB bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25

      River: ($9.24, 2 players) A:spade:
      BB bets $72.43 and is all-in, Hero calls $20.43 and is all-in

      BB shows A:diamond: 6:heart: (Full House, Aces full of Sixes) (Pre 56%, Flop 69%, Turn 9%)
      Hero shows K:club: 7:club: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 44%, Flop 31%, Turn 91%)
      BB wins $48.10

      villain unknown, on the turn i decide to call and not raise him because it pretty much just shows what i have.
      river vs an unknown can i expect various Ax types of hands to do that?
      or am i mostly behind and should fold to such a shove?
  • 7 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello xoshix33,

      I like the play on the turn but I don't get your Call on the river, you are beat there, you can easily fold it cause you are against FH most of the time.

      Best Regards.
    • kokos99sd
      kokos99sd
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      Joined: 25.07.2011 Posts: 2,702
      i d raise the turn ofc hes not folding with two pairs either sets and he pretty much showed us his hand face up
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by kokos99sd
      i d raise the turn ofc hes not folding with two pairs either sets and he pretty much showed us his hand face up
      Why face up? Our range is much wider when we keep calling, by raising you make your hand just face up, what else calls the flop? :) FD only, so he beats just bluffs.
    • kokos99sd
      kokos99sd
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      Joined: 25.07.2011 Posts: 2,702
      i dont think that he is a good player(sizing flop)... and look at this sizing (turn), he just wants to see the river cheaply but i dont think he folds to a raise
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by kokos99sd
      i dont think that he is a good player(sizing flop)... and look at this sizing (turn), he just wants to see the river cheaply but i dont think he folds to a raise
      Then easy keep his range wide even if he is a bad player. He will Bet there any hand again which calls the turn. :) But he wont Bet/Call with pure bluffs.
    • kokos99sd
      kokos99sd
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      Joined: 25.07.2011 Posts: 2,702
      well i would go str8 for value vs these guys... min raise is more likely a made hand then a pure bluff on this limit ;)
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by kokos99sd
      well i would go str8 for value vs these guys... min raise is more likely a made hand then a pure bluff on this limit ;)
      Totally disagree on that, a lot of draws/bluffs/Ax hands could play the same way, most of the range Bet/Fold the turn where our hand is pretty much faced up when you raise.