[NL2-NL10] NL10 KQ turn shove? 30/05

    • allen82082
      allen82082
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      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      BB:
      $6.91
      Hero:
      $3.85

      0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.106 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K:diamond: , Q:heart:
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, 4 folds, BB calls $0.25.

      Flop: ($0.75) K:heart: , 9:spade: , 8:spade: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.55, BB calls $0.55.

      Turn: ($1.85) T:diamond: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $1.3, BB raises to $3.48, Hero calls $1.65 (All-In), BB gets uncalled bet back.

      River: ($7.75) A:heart: (2 players)


      Final Pot: $7.75

      turn just shove?
      Or bet/fold?
  • 8 replies
    • mrbeer9999
      mrbeer9999
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      Does he ever do this with worse than TPTK? We only have 15% equity against AK so unless he does this as a bluff reasonably often we should fold IMO.
    • Gonchan
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      I can't trash TPGK(almost TPTK because AK may 3 bet on flop)
      because of stack size.
      Someone would raised with KJ,KT and FD(it may unusual considering his AF though)
    • allen82082
      allen82082
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      Thanks everyone!! :)
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Do you know if Big Blind is a MSS player who just doubled up or some wacko who happens to play relatively tight?

      This matters a lot regarding his range!


      If he had a monsterflushdraw he would check/raised the Flop. I think you are beat if he does NOT check/raise KJ meaning his check/raising range on the Turn is 2pair or better

      That said I actually check back the Turn to mostly call the River, u need to play pot control here, there are no flushdraws in his range

      - Gerv
    • allen82082
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      Thanks Gerv,if he bet the turn like 2/3 pot what will you do?

      there are no flushdraws in his range

      i can not understand how do you get this conclusion?
      yes ,if he has monsterdraw he will bet the flop,but if he noly has draw he almost lean to check call.
    • Gerv
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      Little excercise for you then Allen;

      Take all the suited hands on paper or put them up Equilab. If you do not have Equilab , now is the time to use it and improve your play

      So a 15/11 won't call preflop with 3 2 for example so
      Excercise 1): Tell me what suited hands are in his range

      Excercise 2): tell me which of those will check/raise you on the Flop because they have combodraws

      Excercise 3) Tell me which of those of 1) will check/call you on the Flop


      Others are welcome to post here to!

      - Gerv
    • Gonchan
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      1 A7s+,K9s+,QTs+,JTs+(without saying all spade)(14 count)
      2 A8,A9,(AK would bet)K9s+(TP)QTs+(gutshot)JTs(OESD)(9 count)
      3 A7,AT,AJ,AQ(1over)(5 count)
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Something like that

      now ATs has a pair+flushdraw so he might check/raise but that's about it

      Mostly one is up against a made hand on the Turn so bet/folding would be a better play

      - Gerv