[NL2-NL10] ZOOM FR2 - Shutdown KK multiway on turn

    • coconauta
      coconauta
      Silver
      Joined: 26.07.2009 Posts: 38
      PokerStars - $0.02 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $4.62
      SB: $1.09
      BB: $2.10
      UTG: $1.00
      UTG+1: $2.00
      UTG+2: $2.73
      Hero (MP): $2.15
      MP+1: $1.97
      CO: $5.36

      SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has K:diamond: K:heart:

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.06, MP+1 calls $0.06, CO calls $0.06, fold, fold, fold

      Flop: ($0.21, 3 players) Q:diamond: 8:club: J:spade:
      Hero bets $0.16, MP+1 calls $0.16, CO calls $0.16

      Turn: ($0.69, 3 players) Q:spade:
      Hero checks, MP+1 bets $0.36, fold, fold

      MP+1 wins $0.67

      Should I insist a little bit more here or is it ok to shutdown this hand on the turn?
  • 5 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello coconauta,

      Preflop: Raising for value, so I'd do it 4x. :P
      Postflop: Bet the flop, Bet the turn rather than give it up there which might be too weak, the guy could easily have Jx/draws himself and took down the pot.

      Best Regards.
    • SneakyhanD
      SneakyhanD
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.10.2007 Posts: 700
      It is fun to play with equilab just to check the equities of your hands versus some ranges with some different flops.

      I hope I will be able to calculate these stuff (equities, odds, EVdecisions ) by heart /autopilot instead of actually calculating and wasting time on this, but I guess practice makes perfect ha :) ?



      In this case I put villain on calling range of 10% (77+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, AJo+, KQo)

      on the flop with got 64.67% .vs 35.33%
      on the turn we got 55.68% vs 44.32%



      veriz, given the line he taken, do we raise 3x/shove ?
      call ? if river comes blank we bet with intention to go all-in ? or c/c ?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      but I guess practice makes perfect ha

      Correct, and the more hands you go through and analyze the better and more comfortable you get.

      veriz, given the line he taken, do we raise 3x/shove ?
      call ? if river comes blank we bet with intention to go all-in ? or c/c ?

      Raise 3x you mean on turn? Nope, we should at the best jut Check/Call it but as I said Bet yourself.
    • coconauta
      coconauta
      Silver
      Joined: 26.07.2009 Posts: 38
      SneakyhanD, that might be a good range estimate preflop, but in my opinion it's not okay to equilate the flop and the turn using the same hand ranges, since we've got more information about the villain.

      I'd also like if the judge could tell what's an apropriate way of playing it considering we fire the turn and he reraises.

      Thanks. :s_grin: :s_grin: :s_grin: :s_grin: :s_grin:
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by coconauta
      SneakyhanD, that might be a good range estimate preflop, but in my opinion it's not okay to equilate the flop and the turn using the same hand ranges, since we've got more information about the villain.

      I'd also like if the judge could tell what's an apropriate way of playing it considering we fire the turn and he reraises.

      Thanks. :s_grin: :s_grin: :s_grin: :s_grin: :s_grin:
      We will be very often beat if we get raised in those spots, so the plan would be to Bet/Fold it.