[NL2-NL10] ATo light 4 bet against 3 better

    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,868
      Pacific, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      UTG+2: $20.82 (104.1 bb)
      MP1: $32.91 (164.5 bb)
      Hero (MP2): $10 (50 bb)
      MP3: $20.64 (103.2 bb)
      CO: $38.82 (194.1 bb)
      BTN: $22.85 (114.3 bb)
      SB: $23.81 (119 bb)
      BB: $20 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A T
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, MP3 folds, CO calls $0.60, 2 folds, BB raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $10 and is all-in, CO folds, BB calls $7.50

      Flop: ($20.70) 7 4 Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: ($20.70) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($20.70) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $20.70 pot ($1.03 rake)
      Final Board: 7 4 Q 5 2
      Hero showed A T and lost (-$10 net)
      BB showed K A and won $19.67 ($9.67 net)


      CO 43/4/48 BB 16/9/536 and 4.7 3bet and 14 resteal.
      I think I was a bit loose.Is it profitable?
  • 5 replies
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Hey :)

      I have some questions for you
      What do you think BB's range for squeezing is? What is your equity with ATo?

      - Gerv
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,868
      I chose 7% range because it is between resteal and 3 bet.
      if so I have 37% equity and worse hand would fold..
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Originally posted by Gonchan
      I chose 7% range because it is between resteal and 3 bet.
      if so I have 37% equity and worse hand would fold..
      Would be handy to specify 7% for me in exact hands....

      7% can be 99+,AJs+,A5s-A2s,98s,AQo+
      or
      88+,ATs+,KTs+,AQo+
      or
      99+,AKs,A5s-A2s,98s,87s,76s,AKo,A2o

      All three viable ranges which you have to play differently against

      Do you know what I mean or should I specify it more?
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      It was 88+,ATs+,KTs+,AQo+(as equilab suggested)

      Although against 99+,AKs,A5s-A2s,98s,87s,76s,AKo, the equity seems better,
      but it may be different from his range.
      Because these hands has large implied odds but it is useless against me.

      What will be his range? I think the middle..
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Originally posted by Gonchan
      It was 88+,ATs+,KTs+,AQo+(as equilab suggested)

      Although against 99+,AKs,A5s-A2s,98s,87s,76s,AKo, the equity seems better,
      but it may be different from his range.
      Because these hands has large implied odds but it is useless against me.

      What will be his range? I think the middle..
      The reason equilab suggested is that these are the highest equitywise hands, that has nothing to do with the situation here as it implies he is only 3betting for value and calls any shove from you

      The other 3bet range is mixed with bluffs, semibluffs and pure value. The thing you do wrong here is calculate your equity here because that assumes you are calling his 3bet. But you are going to miss 66% of the time on the board. When you hit your T/A, chances are you have more reversed implied odds than IO

      So when you shove you have to look what is going to fold from his range & what is going to call. Then you calculate your equity vs his calling range

      Needless to say ATo is a fold here if BB does not squeeze enough versus you or is not aware you are folding too much

      Best regards,
      Gerv