[NL20-NL50] NL50SH JJ quads. how to get max value

    • Chiller3k
      Chiller3k
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      Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
      LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

      UTG: $62.65
      CO: $81.25
      BTN: $46.20
      SB: $27.70
      Hero (BB): $60.30

      Pre-Flop: J:diamond: J:heart: dealt to Hero (BB)
      UTG folds, CO raises to $1.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5.50, CO calls $3.75

      Flop: ($11.25) J:spade: 3:diamond: 5:diamond: (2 Players)
      Hero bets $8, CO calls $8

      Turn: ($27.25) J:club: (2 Players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $17, Hero raises to $35, CO folds

      Results: $61.25 Pot ($3 Rake)
      Hero mucked J:diamond: J:heart: and WON $58.25 (+$27.75 NET)
  • 8 replies
    • nttflox
      nttflox
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      I would lead turn for half pot to be able to go all-in on the river.
    • Chiller3k
      Chiller3k
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      Originally posted by nttflox
      I would lead turn for half pot to be able to go all-in on the river.
      I tried to induce a float... no good idea?
    • Thorsten77
      Thorsten77
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      I really like the line. A bet often forces weaker hands to fold, and by checking you get a lot of bluffs to bet.
    • mishh06
      mishh06
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      Joined: 14.10.2007 Posts: 126
      Is it bad to flat this and then just bet the river?
    • nttflox
      nttflox
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      Originally posted by Thorsten77
      I really like the line. A bet often forces weaker hands to fold, and by checking you get a lot of bluffs to bet.
      Isn't it more likely that villain has some showdown value in a reraised pot and would check turn behind, making it harder for us to get all the money in?
    • mintogo
      mintogo
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      Just c/c the turn and b/r the river.

      A check raise on the turn is most often a sign of strength he obviously has no jack, maybe 10's or ak of diamonds so there's no way you get a call on the turn on your raise.
    • Chiller3k
      Chiller3k
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      I think with a flushdraw he would call my raise or push all in.
    • Thorsten77
      Thorsten77
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      I think calling the turn and betting the river is ok, but not as good as the small raise. Which kind of hands he may have? A pocket or a flushdraw or air.

      I don't see him firing another barrel with air too often, so we won't get too much value. With a pocket, he wants to see a SD and he won't bet the river too often. However, we may get a call to the small raise and can make a small river v-bet. Furthermore, we will often get a call from a FD.