[NL2-NL10] 33 light 4 bet

    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $10 (40 bb)
      BB: $34.25 (137 bb)
      UTG+2: $8.23 (32.9 bb)
      MP1: $16.95 (67.8 bb)
      MP2: $11.77 (47.1 bb)
      MP3: $54.89 (219.6 bb)
      Hero (CO): $10 (40 bb)
      BTN: $13.39 (53.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 3 3
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0.63, BTN folds, SB raises to $2, BB folds, Hero raises to $10 and is all-in, SB calls $8 and is all-in

      Flop: ($20.25) Q 4 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      Turn: ($20.25) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: ($20.25) K (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      Results:[spoiler] $20.25 pot ($0.91 rake)
      Final Board: Q 4 5 Q K
      stats is 14/13/305 and 6.0 3 bet and 5.6vs hero and 29 resteal.
      Can I do it?
  • 5 replies
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Hey,

      Same questions as the other threads you are asking ''can you do it?'' :
      1* What is his resteal range?
      2* Do you think you have fold equity when shoving?
      3* What is his calling range versus your shove?
      4* What is your equity versus that?
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      1 55+,A2s+,K5s+,Q7s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,A7o+,A5o,K9o+,Q9o+,J9o+ 388combo
      2 3-1= 282combo so 0.73=73%
      3 88+,AJs+,KQs,AJo+,KQo 106combo
      4 38.8 equity
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      I am fairly confident 29% is not never his resteal frequency&range which you described here. You actually just pressed 29% in the Equilab which is not what I wanted to see with these questions asked. J9o looks superbad to 3bet from his point of view

      I kindly ask you to re-analyze your hand & think what he would be restealing in frequency & the hands.

      If you need a bit more help I can give you guiding questions but you have to do the actual work

      Best regards,
      Gerv
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      hmm, actually he 3bet against steal 29%.
      But I discounted his range and some bluff raise on his range.
      1 22+,A2s+,K9s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,98s,87s,76s,A9o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo(310 combo)
      2 3-1 = 204 combo so 66%
      3 88+,AJs+,KQs,AJo+,KQo 106combo(106 combo)
      4 38.8 equity.
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      What is your hand sample on his resteal? You tell me he 3bets 29% but from experience no one does that in Fullring on any limit

      I think you do not assess the sample size very well, you have the overall hand sample which you provided. You just do not assess the sub-sample size per statistic. Common stats like VPIP, you can use the #hands sample but with more specific stats there are sub-samplesizes. At HEM you can see a (31) for example which means you have 31 samples on him

      Without any reads/dynamics, I would just fold it. This is a dynamic game where you have to know what you did previously vs him and vice-versa. If you dont know , you dont have history/reads/dynamics so shoving 33 is pretty bad

      - Gerv