I am running very bad lately.Need help !

    • EnterG
      EnterG
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      I post my big looses of today sessions.Late days i am getting into similar situations.Sometimes i play bad.Sometimes i overplay.And sometimes i get bad beats.How can i fix this ? Play only the nuts and nothing else ? I loose many $$$ and it s difficult to recover.When i finish my session lately i am behind around 200-500 bb.Just with a glance can you give me an advice ? Thanks !





      :spade: :heart: :diamond: :club: Hand 1



      Everest Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1795415
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      SB: $53.50 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 10, AF: 2.8, Hands: 1215
      BB: $29.15 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 20, 3B: 8, AF: 2.2, Hands: 2008
      UTG: $29.10 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 2.2, Hands: 775
      CO: $7.55 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 15, 3B: 6, AF: 4.3, Hands: 4775
      Hero (BTN): $24.60 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 2.5, Hands: 69937

      Pre Flop: ($0.40) Hero is BTN with J :diamond: T :diamond:
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, SB raises to $2.05, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.45

      Flop: ($4.35) 2 :diamond: 2 :spade: 7 :diamond: (2 players)
      SB bets $2.90, Hero raises to $8, SB raises to $28.35, Hero calls $14.55 all in

      Turn: ($49.45) 9 :club: (2 players - 1 is all in)

      River: ($49.45) 5 :spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)

      Opponent 10 :spade: 10 :heart:


      :spade: :heart: :diamond: :club: Hand 2



      Everest Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1795418
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      CO: $46.45 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 16, 3B: 5, AF: 1.9, Hands: 464
      BTN: $25.25 - VPIP: 79, PFR: 17, 3B: 3, AF: 2.5, Hands: 391
      Hero (SB): $24.50 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 2.5, Hands: 69937
      BB: $42.45 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 6, 3B: 1, AF: 1.6, Hands: 553
      UTG: $6.90 - VPIP: 49, PFR: 8, 3B: 3, AF: 2.5, Hands: 79

      Pre Flop: ($0.40) Hero is SB with T :club: Q :club:
      UTG calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.10, BB raises to $1.50, UTG calls $1.25, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.25, Hero calls $1.25

      Flop: ($6.25) K :heart: 5 :club: 2 :club: (4 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $4.35, UTG folds, BTN raises to $19.30, Hero raises to $23, BB folds, BTN calls $3.70

      Turn: ($56.60) 9 :club: (2 players)

      River: ($56.60) K :diamond: (2 players)

      Opponent : K :club: 5 :heart:



      :spade: :heart: :diamond: :club: Hand 3


      Everest Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1795419
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      UTG: $27.35 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 10, AF: 2.8, Hands: 1215
      MP: $25.25 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 20, 3B: 8, AF: 2.2, Hands: 2008
      CO: $7.40 - VPIP: 47, PFR: 20, 3B: 6, AF: 3.2, Hands: 251
      BTN: $23.85 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 2.2, Hands: 775
      SB: $42.40 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 7, AF: 1.2, Hands: 1409
      Hero (BB): $23.85 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 2.5, Hands: 69937

      Pre Flop: ($0.40) Hero is BB with Q :diamond: K :diamond:
      UTG raises to $0.90, 1 fold, CO calls $0.90, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.65

      Flop: ($2.85) T :spade: 6 :club: J :diamond: (3 players)
      Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, UTG raises to $3.85, CO folds, Hero calls $3.60

      Turn: ($10.80) Q :spade: (2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG bets $6.80, Hero raises to $19.10, UTG raises to $22.60

      River: ($49.00) 4 :heart: (2 players)
      [

      Opponent K :spade: A :club:


      B] :spade: :heart: :diamond: :club: Hand 4[/B]



      Everest Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1795420
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      UTG: $33.90 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 16, 3B: 5, AF: 1.9, Hands: 464
      CO: $19.90 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 16, 3B: 3, AF: 2.1, Hands: 1036
      BTN: $18.83 - VPIP: 48, PFR: 0, 3B: 1, AF: 1.1, Hands: 640
      Hero (SB): $71.50 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 2.5, Hands: 69937
      BB: $35.12 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 10, AF: 2.8, Hands: 1215

      Pre Flop: ($0.40) Hero is SB with A :heart: J :spade:
      UTG raises to $0.70, CO calls $0.70, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.55, 1 fold

      Flop: ($2.35) 6 :heart: Q :diamond: A :club: (3 players)
      Hero bets $1.20, UTG folds, CO calls $1.20

      Turn: ($4.75) Q :heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.25, CO calls $0.25

      River: ($5.25) Q :club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.60, CO raises to $10.05, Hero raises to $35.40, CO calls $7.70 all in

      Opponent K :heart: Q :spade:


      :spade: :heart: :diamond: :club: Hand 5



      Everest Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1795421
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      SB: $28.55 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 16, 3B: 5, AF: 1.9, Hands: 464
      BB: $18.35 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 15, 3B: 6, AF: 4.3, Hands: 4775
      Hero (UTG): $26.95 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 2.5, Hands: 69937
      MP: $19.60 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 6, 3B: 1, AF: 1.6, Hands: 553
      CO: $3.75 - VPIP: 49, PFR: 8, 3B: 3, AF: 2.5, Hands: 79
      BTN: $33.30 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 20, 3B: 8, AF: 2.2, Hands: 2008

      Pre Flop: ($0.40) Hero is UTG with J :diamond: J :spade:
      Hero raises to $0.90, MP calls $0.90, CO calls $0.90, 3 folds

      Flop: ($3.10) 2 :diamond: 2 :spade: 9 :spade: (3 players)
      Hero checks, MP bets $1.75, CO folds, Hero calls $1.75

      Turn: ($6.60) 7 :club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP bets $4.25, Hero raises to $20, MP calls $12.70 all in

      River: ($40.50) 6 :heart: (2 players - 1 is all in)


      Opponent : K :diamond: K :heart:




      :spade: :heart: :diamond: :club: Hand 6



      Everest Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1795422
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      SB: $16.90 - VPIP: 68, PFR: 9, 3B: 6, AF: 2.6, Hands: 102
      BB: $19.75 - VPIP: 42, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.2, Hands: 24
      UTG: $10.55 - VPIP: 69, PFR: 11, 3B: 10, AF: 0.9, Hands: 35
      MP: $26.30 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 1.3, Hands: 815
      CO: $32.10 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 10, 3B: 2, AF: 1.8, Hands: 141
      Hero (BTN): $25.93 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 2.5, Hands: 69937

      Pre Flop: ($0.40) Hero is BTN with K :club: K :diamond:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, SB calls $0.45, BB calls $0.35

      Flop: ($1.80) 2 :diamond: 3 :club: 7 :diamond: (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($1.80) 4 :heart: (3 players)
      SB bets $1.80, BB folds, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $3.20

      River: ($11.80) 8 :club: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $11.80, SB calls $11.30 all in


      Opponent 2 :heart: 3 :diamond:


      :spade: :heart: :diamond: :club: Hand 7




      Everest Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1795423
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      UTG: $44.90 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 16, 3B: 5, AF: 1.9, Hands: 464
      MP: $11.45 - VPIP: 79, PFR: 17, 3B: 3, AF: 2.5, Hands: 391
      Hero (CO): $23.95 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 2.5, Hands: 69937
      BTN: $42.35 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 6, 3B: 1, AF: 1.6, Hands: 553
      SB: $1.65 - VPIP: 49, PFR: 8, 3B: 3, AF: 2.5, Hands: 79
      BB: $29.60 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 20, 3B: 8, AF: 2.2, Hands: 2008

      Pre Flop: ($0.40) Hero is CO with T :spade: T :heart:
      1 fold, MP calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.15, 1 fold, SB raises to $1.65, 1 fold, MP calls $1.40, Hero calls $0.50

      Flop: ($5.20) 9 :heart: 5 :club: 2 :club: (3 players)
      MP checks, Hero bets $5.00, MP raises to $9.80, Hero calls $4.80

      Turn: ($24.80) J :club: (3 players)

      River: ($24.80) A :heart: (3 players)


      Opponent 9 :diamond: 2 :diamond:




      :spade: :heart: :diamond: :club: Hand 8



      Everest Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1795424
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      UTG: $9.15 - VPIP: 67, PFR: 17, 3B: 9, AF: 3.3, Hands: 169
      MP: $32.41 - VPIP: 36, PFR: 5, 3B: 2, AF: 3.0, Hands: 211
      CO: $48.80 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 10, AF: 2.8, Hands: 1215
      BTN: $11.15 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 15, 3B: 6, AF: 4.3, Hands: 4775
      SB: $32.85 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 10, 3B: 2, AF: 1.8, Hands: 141
      Hero (BB): $37.98 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 2.5, Hands: 69937

      Pre Flop: ($0.40) Hero is BB with K :spade: K :club:
      UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO raises to $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.15, UTG calls $1.90, 1 fold, CO calls $1.65

      Flop: ($6.85) T :club: 3 :heart: J :club: (3 players)
      Hero bets $5.00, UTG raises to $7, CO folds, Hero calls $2

      Turn: ($20.85) J :spade: (2 players)

      River: ($20.85) 4 :spade: (2 players)

      Opponent J :heart: 5 :heart:



      :spade: :heart: :diamond: :club: Hand 9




      Everest Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 3 players - View hand 1795425
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      BB: $24.10 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 3.4, Hands: 1406
      BTN: $17.64 - VPIP: 54, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 3.1, Hands: 148
      Hero (SB): $25.00 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 2.5, Hands: 69937

      Pre Flop: ($0.40) Hero is SB with 7 :spade: 8 :spade:
      BB raises to $0.90, BTN calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.65

      Flop: ($2.70) 3 :diamond: 8 :heart: 3 :club: (3 players)
      Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.75

      Turn: ($4.95) K :heart: (3 players)
      Hero checks, BB checks, BTN checks

      River: ($4.95) 7 :club: (3 players)
      Hero bets $2.70, BB raises to $7, BTN folds, Hero calls $4.30

      Opponent 3 :spade: 3 :heart:



      I think that 's enough.

      Thanks in advance !!!
  • 29 replies
    • Castle93
      Castle93
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      just looking over that list i can see so many times where your completely overplaying your hands, and raising where no worse hand is calling you, and no better hand is folding, my advice would be take all the hands you ve posted here and post them on the hand evaluation forums, the coachs will look through each hand properly and tell you where your going wrong
    • Snodreliss
      Snodreliss
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      Quick answer, have to go.
      hand 1: fine
      hand 2: FOLD!???
      hand 3: call turn
      hand 4: call river
      hand 5: bet out flop
      hand 6: bet flop
      hand 7: fine
      hand 8: raise bigger pre, fine flop
      hand 9: fold river
    • EnterG
      EnterG
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      Thanks for replies !

      Snodreliss what means bet out ?
    • Castle93
      Castle93
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      Originally posted by EnterG
      Thanks for replies !

      Snodreliss what means bet out ?
      He just means bet the flop
    • 23devil23
      23devil23
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      Quick answer, have to go.
      hand 1: fine

      Calling an all in with flush draw(40 % chance to win at most considering overcards to opponents potential pair which he inevitably holds) is fine at that stakes?Please explain why do you think that was profitable play.Thank you.
    • metza
      metza
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      Originally posted by 23devil23
      Quick answer, have to go.
      hand 1: fine

      Calling an all in with flush draw(40 % chance to win at most considering overcards to opponents potential pair which he inevitably holds) is fine at that stakes?Please explain why do you think that was profitable play.Thank you.
      50% to win against A7, and pocket pairs under TT. As it was he still had 45% equity, although the K on the flop would be enough for me to fold, especially since opponent 3bet pre, you'd expect to only have clubs as outs.
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
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      we raise flop because we want to fold out better hands like AK/AQ/whatever, maybe even some middle pockets.
      once he shoves it kinda sucks but we're commited to calling it off because we only need 14.55/49.45 = ~29% equity which we are getting with FD. snapcall if we consider that our overcards may also work some % of the time
    • MatejM47
      MatejM47
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      Joined: 21.01.2010 Posts: 1,193
      Originally posted by metza
      Originally posted by 23devil23
      Quick answer, have to go.
      hand 1: fine

      Calling an all in with flush draw(40 % chance to win at most considering overcards to opponents potential pair which he inevitably holds) is fine at that stakes?Please explain why do you think that was profitable play.Thank you.
      50% to win against A7, and pocket pairs under TT. As it was he still had 45% equity, although the K on the flop would be enough for me to fold, especially since opponent 3bet pre, you'd expect to only have clubs as outs.
      Your mixing up the hands. His talking about hand#1 JTs not the QTs hand and im JTs hand is played fined and good for your range to not only raising the nuts in that spot even tho it might be unnecessary on this limit.

      hand #2 QTs hand on another hand is just a massive overplay and a no brainer fold. Best case scenario your up against a K which gives your 35% equity which is still slighly losing call given the pot odds at that point and thats the best case scanario. Worst case canario your against a set of KK and a the nutfd or Kxcc and you have 2% equity.

      #3 call the turn. Once he continues betting this specific turn that should improve your range your best case scenario here is to get it in vs 2 pair. Your doing very bad against AQ,AK,KK,AA and sets. Its not like your getting called by AJ here so pretty much nothing worse is going to call you and nothing better will ever fold at this point.

      #4 Call the river. Raising gets you no value and you never fold out and Ax. Your just lose an extra 7$ when he has a Q and an extra 50c to rake when he has an Ax.

      #5 W/o specific reads you have to bet out the flop&turn. If there was some gameflow that made you take this line then fine other wise c/c c/r doesnt make any sense. You really cant afford the flop to get checked trough and see :spade: QKA.

      #6 Why would you checkback the flop against fishes here? Thats just dumb and your missing a ton of value since the fish is going to check most of 1 pair hands to you on the turn so you get no value from your plan of raising the turn.
      #7 This one is actually played fine. Not much you can do but get it in against the fish and be super happy about it. Getting it in against the reg would probably be bad since he should have a tight range in this spot.

      #8 Not sure why this hand is here.

      #9 Why would you bet/call the river. Only reason i see is that your missread the board and thought you have 2 pair.

      #10 Your not running bad, your playing bad. You overplay hands and getting agro in spot you shouldn't be. Your value raising where there is not value. On the other hand your checking when there is value. You make a hand plan hoping for your opponent to bet when they infact are to passive to bet the hands you need them to bet if that makes sense.

      No you do not only have to play the nuts and be a total nit. Just try playing a solid stlye and bet when there's value and fold when facing agression in forms of 3barreling and raising since players on those limit just dont bluff off enough and very rarely put there whole stack in the middle as a bluff.
    • franeczek
      franeczek
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      The 1st hand is not ok at all.
      The only way it would have any sense is if you mix it with QQ+ that you just flat pre (what almost no one do preflop blibat).
      You exactly rep what you have at higher stakes you would get ship with bare overs just because of that.
      I'd rather call flop and ship T vs 2nd barell to get 2 bets from his bluffs and I would be able to rep at least sth.
      If he is bluffy call flop ship Turn you get 2 streets of value vs his bluffs that he barells. If he isn't bluffy and will just x/f T just flat the 227 and bet T or check back T and bet R to rep weak overpair.
    • nefarious26
      nefarious26
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      looks very spewy to me

      i would post these in the

      hand evaluation forums

      Hand Evaluations No Limit 0.10/0.20 to 0.25/0.50
    • EnterG
      EnterG
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      Guys thanks so much for your replies ! I didn't follow this thread because it was not shown at my top ones.Anyways.
      Usually in these ugly situation i get when i have bad beats mixed with bad plays.Connected one-another is the worst thing in poker i think !

      I play more tight lately.Maybe more than i should but definitely more than i used to.I am getting my bankroll back.Maybe i should try nit.But it 's not my style.I don't like it.

      Thanks again !
    • ilovemagic
      ilovemagic
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      This is textbook hand evaluation forum shit.

      I would load up HEM or PT and try to relive the hands again. take into account table dynamics at the time and anything you can remember about your opponents as well as any notes you may have had on them to see where your thought process was coming from and why you justified your actions. look at each opponents stats individually and see where you were right/wrong. Is there any stat you overlooked/missed that couldve helped you during the hand? this is how i am going to approach all of my hand reviews from now on.

      Instead of just posting hands post the most info you possibly can about the hand without saying whether you lost or won the hand and give as much info as you can about how you were playing at the time, how your opponents might have been perceiving your play as well as vise versa. thats the only true way a coach can accurately evaluate your hand. they also give better opinions then most of the members here on pokerstrategy including myself. no offence to anyone, just the coaches are here for a reason. use them.

      I know all about tilt and running bad man. just keep analyzing and remember where you came from and what made you love this game and you will be ok.

      magic
    • EnterG
      EnterG
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      Originally posted by ilovemagic
      This is textbook hand evaluation forum shit.

      I would load up HEM or PT and try to relive the hands again. take into account table dynamics at the time and anything you can remember about your opponents as well as any notes you may have had on them to see where your thought process was coming from and why you justified your actions. look at each opponents stats individually and see where you were right/wrong. Is there any stat you overlooked/missed that couldve helped you during the hand? this is how i am going to approach all of my hand reviews from now on.

      Instead of just posting hands post the most info you possibly can about the hand without saying whether you lost or won the hand and give as much info as you can about how you were playing at the time, how your opponents might have been perceiving your play as well as vise versa. thats the only true way a coach can accurately evaluate your hand. they also give better opinions then most of the members here on pokerstrategy including myself. no offence to anyone, just the coaches are here for a reason. use them.

      I know all about tilt and running bad man. just keep analyzing and remember where you came from and what made you love this game and you will be ok.

      magic

      :s_thumbsup:
    • Supremace
      Supremace
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      Drop down a limit. NL 10 is super easy on everest. And stay there until you fix both your game and your tilt issues. Or sit down at my tables at nl 25 :s_biggrin: .

      On a serious note you are playing your hands so wrong, raising for value where there is none, playing strong holdings passively against passive opponents and etc.

      I didnt have the impression you had so many leaks from the tables we played together on. Saw a few very bad plays but attributed it to tilt. Also my impression of you was that you play an abc poker style, and one of my observations was that you play bad vs regs.

      I hope this helps you and consider giving nl 10 a try at least untill you get your head straight.

      Good luck!
    • EnterG
      EnterG
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      Originally posted by Supremace
      Drop down a limit. NL 10 is super easy on everest. And stay there until you fix both your game and your tilt issues. Or sit down at my tables at nl 25 :s_biggrin: .

      On a serious note you are playing your hands so wrong, raising for value where there is none, playing strong holdings passively against passive opponents and etc.

      I didnt have the impression you had so many leaks from the tables we played together on. Saw a few very bad plays but attributed it to tilt. Also my impression of you was that you play an abc poker style, and one of my observations was that you play bad vs regs.

      I hope this helps you and consider giving nl 10 a try at least untill you get your head straight.

      Good luck!
      Thanks ! Will see you at the tables nl25 on july. ;)
    • ragney
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      No offense but how are you platinum while you have so much leaks postflop? ?(

      Since alot of people already gave you feedback about postflop I highly recommend you to invest ALOT of time fixing them. Be it reading hand histories of other players, watching videos or buy/attend some coaching.
    • EnterG
      EnterG
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      Originally posted by ragney
      No offense but how are you platinum while you have so much leaks postflop? ?(

      Since alot of people already gave you feedback about postflop I highly recommend you to invest ALOT of time fixing them. Be it reading hand histories of other players, watching videos or buy/attend some coaching.
      I am not playing ALWAYS that way :rolleyes:
    • Agiz19
      Agiz19
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      rigged!! :f_o:
    • Supremace
      Supremace
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      Any better in July?
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