[NL2-NL10] NL10 SH 200BB KK vs fish

    • newsat
      Joined: 21.02.2008 Posts: 3,224
      Originally posted by newsat
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      seeing hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2 (Hero):

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K.
      Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, BU calls $0.40, SB raises to $1.60, BB folds, Hero calls $1.20, BU calls $1.20.

      Flop: ($4.9) 7, T, 5 (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $2.80, BU calls $2.80, SB folds.

      Turn: ($10.5) J (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $4.99, Hero calls $4.99.

      River: ($20.48) Q (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU raises to $9.40(All-In), Hero folds, BU gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $20.48.

      SB VP 29/ PFR 24/ 3Bet 3.8/ Flop AF 3.0 / TAF/ 2.0/ RAF 1.0 / Hand 257
      BU normal fish VP 43/ PFR 27/ FAF 1.3 / TAF 10.0 / RAF 4.0/ Hand 57(final stat)
      - at this play, 20 hands, not so many information

      no history vs SB

      In spite of 200BB battle, I thought of 4bet as 3bet sqeeze came after fish called my raise. But I called 3bet as my position is better than SB(ignoring fish). But I folded river as fish pushed unexpectedly and river is the worst.

      I should have bet or push turn? I seemed too tight as both were 200BB.

      How I should play ?
      Originally posted by Gerv
      Hello Newsat,

      I pointed out in another hand evaluation thread from you that this is the Midstack section in which we mostly play with 40 big blinds. You play with around 230big blinds which is the Big stack section :)

      As for the hand; preflop I would 4bet because SB plays with 160bb and I think we want to get straight up value with our kings. $4.25 is a good sizing

      As played, we should bet the Flop bigger like $3.5, SB does not have AA so we can valuebet here

      The Turn is either a check/shove or another valuebet, why do you check here?

      Best regards,
      The stack are too large to shove turn ?

      I checked turn to know his tendency and whethen I was ahead or behind.

      hmm... It seems that situation became hard as I didn't 4bet preflop.
  • 1 reply
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello newsat,

      Preflop: 4bet it for value here yourself than Call it, why would you want to Call and drag another guy along and even give him set-mining odds.

      As played
      Flop: Depends a lot what's the purpose of the Bet here, I'd Bet myself or value so I'd go also for a bit bigger Bet at least $3, my plan is anyways to Bet/Fold it. Nor of course we don't want to build up the pot that big then betting this amount ain't really a huge mistake.
      Turn: Bet the turn yourself rather than turn it into bluff-catcher, Bet/Fold it even cause I don't see him having many worse hands and I'd go for like 1/2 pot size as I made the same on the flop. Check/Raising wouldn't bring us far cause we just making worse to fold and better continue.

      As played
      River: Not much we have beat.

      Best Regards.