[NL20-NL50] 99 on horrible board

    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,867
      IPoker, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $34.37 (343.7 bb)
      Hero (SB): $11.84 (118.4 bb)
      BB: $10 (100 bb)
      UTG: $21.62 (216.2 bb)
      MP: $15.14 (151.4 bb)
      CO: $17.04 (170.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 9
      3 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, BB calls $0.80, BTN calls $0.60

      Flop: ($2.70) 7 7 2 (3 players)
      Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets $1.80, Hero calls $1.80, BB calls $1.80

      Turn: ($8.10) 2 (3 players)
      Hero bets $3.90, BB calls $3.90, BTN folds

      River: ($15.90) 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $5.24 and is all-in, BB calls $3.40 and is all-in

      Results:
      $22.70 pot ($1.51 rake)
      Final Board: 7 7 2 2 5
      Hero mucked 9 9 and lost (-$10 net)
      BB showed K A and won $21.19 ($11.19 net)


      45/0/22.
      I doubt my standing on turn but I don't want to trash my hand so I bet so small.
      it was very marginal bet. and river, worst card came but I don't want to see
      BB's bet so I shove..(it was psychology problem, isn't it? lol)

      On turn should I bet big or shove?
  • 5 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Gonchan,

      Preflop: Why do you 3bet in first place? Why do you 3bet this amount?

      As played
      Postflop: Why do you Check/Call the flop and donk the turn (also so small?)? You are just value-towning yourself against better hands.

      As played on the river, what pays you which is worse, even FD got there? :)

      Best Regards.
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,867
      I thought I'm ahead against steal range.
      3bet size is 3times as standard(should I care about BTN's bet size and position?
      I scared BB's call but bet/fold flop is prefered?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Gonchan
      I thought I'm ahead against steal range.
      3bet size is 3times as standard(should I care about BTN's bet size and position?
      I scared BB's call but bet/fold flop is prefered?
      I see, but don't you feel you kinda overplayed your hand here? :) So might even not worth 3betting in first place with those hands when you not understanding when you are ahead with the hand or not. Perfect hand to play postflop even for an overpair.

      3bet size isn't normal to just make it 3x, it gives good odds to even set-mine vs you unless you have super high 3betting frequency and people tend still to Call + we are OOP. From what does the standard come from, could you provide me any info about it that 3x is standard?
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,867
      it's from BSS basic article.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Gonchan
      it's from BSS basic article.
      Well, those articles are actually quite old and you can't really use 3x raise vs for example min-raise and nor even actually vs 3bb raise being OOP. Cause you just giving correct odds to set-mine which is Call15 rule. I guess I should talk with some guys who are responsible for it and get them to update some stuff. :D