[NL20-NL50] T9s 3bet pot FD 3way

    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,867
      IPoker, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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      Hero (UTG): $21.03 (105.2 bb)
      MP: $24.88 (124.4 bb)
      CO: $6 (30 bb)
      BTN: $20.92 (104.6 bb)
      SB: $6.66 (33.3 bb)
      BB: $18.35 (91.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with T 9
      Hero raises to $0.60, MP calls $0.60, 3 folds, BB raises to $1.80, Hero calls $1.20, MP calls $1.20

      Flop: ($5.50) 3 7 3 (3 players)
      BB bets $4.12, Hero calls $4.12, MP folds

      Turn: ($13.74) J (2 players)
      BB bets $6.87, Hero folds

      Results:
      $13.74 pot ($0.68 rake)
      Final Board: 3 7 3 J
      Hero mucked T 9 and lost (-$5.92 net)
      BB mucked and won $13.06 ($7.14 net)


      23/15/119 and 5.9 3bet.
      I doubt flop because he would barrel twice so should I shove on flop instead of call big bet.
      Pot commitment rule would fit here.
  • 3 replies
    • mrkaktus
      mrkaktus
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 69
      I personally would not call 9Ts against 3bet and definitely not in this spot (UTG + MP squeezed by BB - his range is soooo strong here and you are just 100bb deep).

      Even with FD I would fold to flop cbet as there is another player behind you and we can not be sure what he is going to do and I suppose squeezer (regish looking) would not cbet against 2 players w/o real hand and considering that his range is strong PF there are imo 99,9% of real hands in his cbetting range on flop.

      Once you got to turn you can not fold due to odds- bet 1/2 pot and you have FD + GS. And as you have no fold eq. I would just take the odds and call, and play river dependant on the fact if I hit or not.
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
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      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      Only reason to call the 3bet is the sizing and the fact that the other person will be in too. I think it's very close but I'd probably fold because we are UTG and he 3bets from the blinds. If we call we want to hit a flush or two pair or a set or a straight. So when Txx comes we have an easy fold.
      Another thing that is in favour of folding is that our flush can easily be dominated. Also we lose a lot of we flop FD's like now... So for me it's a close fold preflop.

      On the flop we get a very bad price but I suppose we can call since he looks like going broke even when a club falls. Turn is so close, idk.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Hi,

      I would prefer just b/f, since I think he has there overpair a lot and I doubt you get enough implied odds even if other player would call.

      I think calling flop/folding big bet on the turn is fine- no point getting al-in 30% equity without no fold equity.
      I would call again that turn card, since you would get his stack likely any river (he is representing aces- that he would not really c/f when flushcard comes on the river)

      best regards,