[NL20-NL50] KK is it a plain flop structure?

    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,867
      IPoker, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BB: $20 (100 bb)
      UTG: $22.36 (111.8 bb)
      MP: $7.67 (38.3 bb)
      Hero (CO): $23.61 (118.1 bb)
      BTN: $19.40 (97 bb)
      SB: $27.08 (135.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
      UTG raises to $0.40, MP folds, Hero raises to $1.40, BTN calls $1.40, 3 folds

      Flop: ($3.50) Q Q 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2, BTN calls $2

      Turn: ($7.50) J (2 players)
      Hero bets $4, BTN calls $4

      River: ($15.50) T (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $6, Hero calls $6

      Results:
      $27.50 pot ($1 rake)
      Final Board: Q Q 2 J T
      Hero mucked K K and lost (-$13.40 net)
      BTN showed Q K and won $26.50 ($13.10 net)


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      I thought I could value from Jx,Tx and his river bet was too small so I chose calldown.

      on Turn, should I pot control?
  • 5 replies
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
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      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 6,858
      no such thing as pot control oop, if he wants to bet turn and river you can't do anything about it. :f_biggrin:

      turn and river kinda suck though and may even find a c/f river there.
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
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      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      tbh I think there is no worse hand calling the turn... Maybe AJ offcourse or TT but we don't know if he is loose. Even if he is there is no worse hand betting the river so ch/f there
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Gonchan,

      Can't really see what Tx hands he will have there, JT? JT wont even float the flop.

      So the only idea is to Bet/Fold the turn and Check/Fold the river, can't see what you have beat there.

      Best Regards.
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,867
      hmm, block bet on turn seems bit first for me, but I will simulate.
      is block bet 2$ or some on this spot?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Gonchan
      hmm, block bet on turn seems bit first for me, but I will simulate.
      is block bet 2$ or some on this spot?
      Nah, I mean by this that I'd Bet/Fold the same amount as you did than turn it into bluff-catcher. Not about the sizing, small size will just indicate to weak hand.