i need an advise for my bankrollmanagement

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    • zobupasts
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      lol about Phil Laak comparison.

      It would be useful to know something more about your poker background. What is your usual game (cash, Sit&go, MTT)? What limits can you beat?

      As a cash player I would play NL25 with that bankroll.
    • metza
      metza
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      As above poster said, or for sit n go's $15 buy ins are good for that bankroll
    • ExternalUseOnly
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      Hi pokerboy :)

      First of all i hope you don't mind but i have moved your thread to a more relevant forum board.

      Secondly, tell us a bit more about your game which game type do you enjoy playing the most? There is no point choosing a game type you don't enjoy because if you do this you will never find the motivation to improve yourself.

      Tell us how did you get up to ~$900 how many hands/tourneys what kind of a bankroll management you have been using or that you are comfortable to use in the future. Also what are your plans for the future, are you looking to climb through the stakes as quickly as possible or are you hoping to take a more slow and steady approach and get a good sample size of games/hands before you move up.

      Do you feel like you are ready and have the skills to beat the limits you are currently rolled for, or (and answer honestly here :P ) Do you think you have luckboxed some/a lot of your bankroll so far and feel you probably need to work a little more on the foundations of your game a bit more before moving up?

      Answering these will start to help us help you with what you are looking for.

      Let me know if you need anything
      Carl
    • TiciBoy
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      Want advice...

      Don't play NL100 with $880 :f_confused:

      lucky or playing well

      And as far I can see this was a deepstack table.
    • pokerboy198229
      pokerboy198229
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      Best Carl,

      Thank u for your reaction.

      Wel its all started 3,5 years ago by playing casino's home gamez. I was doing ok.
      Then i moved to online poker. And i was doing fine in cash game (when i had patience) but also in MTT with huge fields.
      2010 i won s satelite to ept london, i didnt finish in the money but i did hold on 2 days. 10 more places to win, big cooler shortstack sm against bb 1010/AA. But i did won in side charity tournament second place.

      So i had bankroll of $ 2500 and because of bad luck/play in 2011 i did almost lost it all. 2 weeks ago i participated in in $1,10 turbo tournament and won the whole thing beating almost 8000 people. Important to know is that was knockout torunament with knockout bounty and earned only &1 with the bounty knockout. So i did only knock out 3 people from 8000 and i still won the whole thing.

      My best online games were cash games 1/2 nl blinds. I came regularly with $200 and was taking away something between $400-$600. But i was running hot those days. Now i want to considerate my brm and do not want to have that stress and coolers again...
    • pokerboy198229
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      Carl,

      u did also asked what are my plans. well i want to climb in stakes but i would also like to cash out every month. So on the first place i have to calculate my hour rate, dont u think?
    • ExternalUseOnly
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      Originally posted by pokerboy198229
      Carl,

      u did also asked what are my plans. well i want to climb in stakes but i would also like to cash out every month. So on the first place i have to calculate my hour rate, dont u think?
      Well to get an accurate hourly rate you need to get some sort of a sample size of hands down, i mean do you have any database with a lot of hands at the minute?

      Also i don't think this is too important right now the most important thing is finding out what limits you should be playing. As Ticiboy said above playing NL100 with 9 buy-ins is a pretty crazy idea to be honest. I mean what kind of a sample size do you have at this limit. You need at the very least 50k hands to start to see where you stand vs NL100 or NL200

      If you want to play online cash i would probably start at either NL10 or 25. Probably 10 until you have built up a hand sample of at the very least 25k hands (this is still small but it will give you an idea of the skill level difference and you will be well over rolled so small downswings/coolers may not stress you out as much as you said.

      You won't be able to cash out as much if you're playing NL10 but you learn valuable lessons on the way to NL100+ that will help you crush the games when you get there. Is cashing out each month really important at this time? Are you relying on any income from poker or is it just extra money for you? If its extra i would advise just not touching it and letting your bankroll grow and grow

      Anyway hope this helps
    • nefarious26
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      Originally posted by ExternalUseOnly
      Originally posted by pokerboy198229
      Carl,

      u did also asked what are my plans. well i want to climb in stakes but i would also like to cash out every month. So on the first place i have to calculate my hour rate, dont u think?
      Well to get an accurate hourly rate you need to get some sort of a sample size of hands down, i mean do you have any database with a lot of hands at the minute?

      Also i don't think this is too important right now the most important thing is finding out what limits you should be playing. As Ticiboy said above playing NL100 with 9 buy-ins is a pretty crazy idea to be honest. I mean what kind of a sample size do you have at this limit. You need at the very least 50k hands to start to see where you stand vs NL100 or NL200

      If you want to play online cash i would probably start at either NL10 or 25. Probably 10 until you have built up a hand sample of at the very least 25k hands (this is still small but it will give you an idea of the skill level difference and you will be well over rolled so small downswings/coolers may not stress you out as much as you said.

      You won't be able to cash out as much if you're playing NL10 but you learn valuable lessons on the way to NL100+ that will help you crush the games when you get there. Is cashing out each month really important at this time? Are you relying on any income from poker or is it just extra money for you? If its extra i would advise just not touching it and letting your bankroll grow and grow

      Anyway hope this helps
      Yeah but its fun :f_eek:
    • ExternalUseOnly
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      Originally posted by nefarious26
      Originally posted by ExternalUseOnly
      Originally posted by pokerboy198229
      Carl,

      u did also asked what are my plans. well i want to climb in stakes but i would also like to cash out every month. So on the first place i have to calculate my hour rate, dont u think?
      Well to get an accurate hourly rate you need to get some sort of a sample size of hands down, i mean do you have any database with a lot of hands at the minute?

      Also i don't think this is too important right now the most important thing is finding out what limits you should be playing. As Ticiboy said above playing NL100 with 9 buy-ins is a pretty crazy idea to be honest. I mean what kind of a sample size do you have at this limit. You need at the very least 50k hands to start to see where you stand vs NL100 or NL200

      If you want to play online cash i would probably start at either NL10 or 25. Probably 10 until you have built up a hand sample of at the very least 25k hands (this is still small but it will give you an idea of the skill level difference and you will be well over rolled so small downswings/coolers may not stress you out as much as you said.

      You won't be able to cash out as much if you're playing NL10 but you learn valuable lessons on the way to NL100+ that will help you crush the games when you get there. Is cashing out each month really important at this time? Are you relying on any income from poker or is it just extra money for you? If its extra i would advise just not touching it and letting your bankroll grow and grow

      Anyway hope this helps
      Yeah but its fun :f_eek:
      True dat

      But its an expensive way to have fun if you aint ready :D
    • pokerboy198229
      pokerboy198229
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      Joined: 20.08.2011 Posts: 1,095
      Best ExternalUseOnly

      I followed your advice and playing now $25, 4 tables.
      I played 9K hands last days and winning now about $120.

      So thank u.
    • ExternalUseOnly
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      No problem, just don't go climbing the stakes too quickly. make sure you know you are definitely beating the limit before you try and crush the next one and also of course make sure you have the bankroll for it :)

      Remember to use the hand evaluation forums all the time too so our hand judges can help you spot any leaks you may have and again help you move up quicker.

      Just give me a shout if you have any questions
      Carl