[NL2-NL10] NL2 QJs weak play

    • ramadas
      ramadas
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.09.2011 Posts: 462
      Should I call the turn according to rules? I would hit a straight...

      Party Poker $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 1811661
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      Hero (CO): $2.16 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 11, 3B: 4, AF: 2.7, Hands: 10616
      BTN: $2.17 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 9, 3B: 0, AF: 0.4, Hands: 47
      SB: $2.68 - VPIP: 40, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 2.5, Hands: 10
      BB: $3.50 - VPIP: 30, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.4, Hands: 20
      UTG: $2.00 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 2.5, Hands: 49
      UTG+1: $2.06 - VPIP: 10, PFR: 6, 3B: 8, AF: 1.2, Hands: 101
      MP1: $2.41 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 7, AF: 6.3, Hands: 248
      MP2: $4.41 - VPIP: 95, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 20

      Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with J :spade: Q :spade:
      1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.06, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.06, Hero calls $0.06, BTN calls $0.06, 2 folds

      Flop: ($0.27) 9 :club: 4 :club: T :spade: (4 players)
      UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets $0.26, Hero calls $0.26, BTN calls $0.26, UTG+1 folds

      Turn: ($1.05) 3 :club: (3 players)
      MP2 bets $0.50, Hero folds, BTN calls $0.50

      River: ($2.05) K :diamond: (2 players)
      MP2 bets $0.97, BTN calls $0.97

      Final Pot: $3.99
      BTN shows 9 :diamond: T :diamond:
      MP2 shows A :heart: T :heart:
      BTN wins $3.80
      (Rake: $0.19)
  • 4 replies
    • mrbeer9999
      mrbeer9999
      Basic
      Joined: 11.12.2010 Posts: 182
      I don't like drawing to straights on the turn when the board has 3 to a flush or is paired, unless we get a really good price. That's just me though.
    • Jehryn
      Jehryn
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.04.2008 Posts: 678
      The fact that this time you did hit a straight is completely and utterly irrelevant.

      On the flop you have an OESD but due to the Flush Draw you only have 6 clean outs. The chance to a straight on the turn is around 1:8 and the pot odds you were given are 1:2. So your call on the flop is a MAJOR leak. Only call for a SD when you have the correct pot odds, which will almost never happen if there is also a FD on the table.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Hi,

      I think floating ip should be fine. Don´t think you´re that bad shape with overcards and oesd. I would also fold on the turn- even if your straight is good then there are only 6 cards that improve your hand without making 4-flush board and you can be easily drawing dead

      best regards,
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello ramadas,

      Fold the flop cause you don't get the implied odds and of course you may even be against a FD as well which means exclude outs. We also have opponents behind us who could easily just raise and we would donating the money into the pot.

      Best Regards.