[NL20-NL50] [SH] NL25 AQo in 3bet pot

    • duder1n0
      duder1n0
      Gold
      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 5,317
      $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -

      BTN: $29.56
      Hero (SB): $33.42
      BB: $25.00
      UTG: $26.50
      MP: $24.79
      CO: $29.76

      Pre Flop: ($0.37) Hero is SB with Q :diamond: A :heart:
      1 fold, MP raises to $0.71, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 1 fold, MP calls $1.79

      Flop: ($5.25) 5 :club: 9 :diamond: T :heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.00, MP calls $3

      Turn: ($11.25) Q :spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $5.50, MP calls $5.50

      River: ($22.25) 3 :spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $14.75, MP calls $13.79 all in


      MP



      Preflop 3bet for value, as he seems not folding to 3bets?
      On the flop maybe check/fold would be better, MP could float with most of his calling hands (PPs, broadways).
      After hitting TPTK on the turn, not much option I guess, he could call me down with KQ/QJ, maybe even herocall with JJ.
      What do you think?
  • 4 replies
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      3bet pf indeed for value and because of postflop stats we can't really cbet without a hit so maybe that's why it's better to just call preflop?
      If we bet flop we have to bet most of turn but also vs thisone it can't really work out since he doesn't like to fold the turn too.

      Now we hit the turn and we have an easy valuebet which can be even a little bit bigger.

      Nice rivershove imo
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello pcfmcc02,

      Preflop: 3betting is still fine but not always a must, it will be difficult to play being OOP.
      Flop: Don't really like the CB here cause most of his range is going to continue whichever called us.

      As played otherwise on the turn & river kind of marginal again cause he has really high W$SD so far, do you even see him paying you with a lot worse hands? - Doubt so. The only hands which we see being in his range and the only hope is QJ/KQ which might Call down but then again he also just beats bluff. For example:

      Board: 5:club: 9:diamond: T:heart:  Q:spade:  3:spade:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      UTG    61.90%  61.90%   0.00% { QQ, TT-99, 55, KJs+, QJs, KJo+, QJo }
      UTG+1  38.10%  38.10%   0.00% { AhQd }

      even vs his strong made hand range we still don't get decent equity. We of course need for the given money in the pot ~30% equity. But we might even exclude some of his range cause we still don't have the reads on him if he is even capable of calling us down with that loose range which might bring us to break-even spot.

      Doubt that the guy is ever going to shove there with worse Qx hands so we could as well Check the river assuming not to see that many bluffs in his 3bet-floating range.

      Best Regards.
    • duder1n0
      duder1n0
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      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 5,317
      Originally posted by veriz
      Doubt that the guy is ever going to shove there with worse Qx hands so we could as well Check the river assuming not to see that many bluffs in his 3bet-floating range.

      So you'd prefer check/fold in this river spot?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by pcfmcc02
      Originally posted by veriz
      Doubt that the guy is ever going to shove there with worse Qx hands so we could as well Check the river assuming not to see that many bluffs in his 3bet-floating range.

      So you'd prefer check/fold in this river spot?
      As long he has been so far super-picky with his showdown and we can't be even sure how many Qx hands we can include into his range which Call then yep cause I don't see him bluffing with showdown hands.