[NL2-NL10] NL5 FR standard table KK

    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
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      NL Holdem $0.05(BB) Poker Stars
      SB ($7.51)
      BB ($10.59)
      UTG ($6.90)
      UTG+1 ($4.72)
      UTG+2 ($7.08)
      MP1 ($5)
      CO ($3.40)
      Hero ($5)

      Dealt to Hero K:club: K:diamond:

      fold, fold, fold, MP1 raises to $0.20, fold, Hero calls $0.20, fold, fold

      FLOP ($0.47) 3:heart: 2:club: T:diamond:

      MP1 bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35

      TURN ($1.17) 3:heart: 2:club: T:diamond: 6:diamond:

      MP1 bets $1, Hero calls $1

      RIVER ($3.17) 3:heart: 2:club: T:diamond: 6:diamond: Q:club:

      MP1 bets $3.45 (AI), Hero folds

      MP1 wins $3.04


      Villain is 7/7 on 29 hands so not much info. Loose player behind me I want in the hand and I don't see much value in 3betting so I just call pre.

      Turn bet sizing seems to indicate a strong hand maybe AA maybe 66. Shove river makes me htink I'm never ahead, or at least, not enough to call.
  • 7 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello DaPhunk,

      Preflop: 3bet for value. :) Why would you set-mine vs him?

      As played
      Postflop: Not much to comment as long you picked such a line but kinda put yourself into such a spot where you just hero-calling and turning your hand into bluff-catcher. I'd myself raise at some point to get value from weaker overpairs or whatsoever hands.

      Best Regards.
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
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      One of the blinds is a Whale. I don't want to 3bet and isolate the Nit reg and leave him out of the hand.

      Whether 3betting a super-nit is actually more or less +ev than just calling is a point for a seperate discussion. It may be that I played too much zoom recently but it seems to me such a type of villain will not react in the correct way to my 3bet to make it a good move for max value.

      Once the whale in the blinds folds and we are Heads-up on the flop you would raise his cbet for value? Seems a bit polarising on such a dry flop, I'm sure that move looks like a set or nothing to a lot of people.
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello DaPhunk,

      Preflop: 3bet for value. :) Why would you set-mine vs him?

      As played
      Postflop: Not much to comment as long you picked such a line but kinda put yourself into such a spot where you just hero-calling and turning your hand into bluff-catcher. I'd myself raise at some point to get value from weaker overpairs or whatsoever hands.

      Best Regards.
      Still the same answer. Why do people try to slowplay KK in NL5? :f_cry: Even on higher limits I would never-ever do that.

      What are you 3betting then?
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
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      "Even on higher limits"

      Where are you going to find a 7/7 SH reg on higher limits?
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Originally posted by DaPhunk
      "Even on higher limits"

      Where are you going to find a 7/7 SH reg on higher limits?
      You wont have such nits on even on lower limits and if you do then the sample is really small. Would 3bet for value.
    • Kruppe
      Kruppe
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      Joined: 20.02.2008 Posts: 2,144
      postflop is fine unless you think he isn't betting turn enough with JJ/QQ, in which case fold turn, or if people at nl5 barrel air/draw on these turns a lot, in which case calldown.

      preflop i would think this way about QQ, but there's definite value with KK vs MP nit. and you don't get much value OOP vs fish by flatting. and if it's a whale, then 3bet and look for coldcall.
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
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      Thanks.