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[NL2-NL10] NL2 slowplayed flopped full house

    • ramadas
      Joined: 02.09.2011 Posts: 462
      Do you think I would extract more money not by slowplaying?

      Party Poker $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 1812322
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      BB: $2.32 - VPIP: 42, PFR: 21, 3B: 2, AF: 2.2, Hands: 160
      UTG: $0.62 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.3, Hands: 20
      UTG+1: $1.56 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 22
      UTG+2: $0.78 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 20
      MP1: $2.13 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 15
      MP2: $2.33 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 2, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 63
      CO: $2.33 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 0.2, Hands: 20
      BTN: $0.48 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 3, 3B: 10, AF: 0.0, Hands: 34
      Hero (SB): $2.85 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 11, 3B: 4, AF: 2.7, Hands: 11486

      Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with 3 :diamond: 3 :heart:
      7 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, BB calls $0.06

      Flop: ($0.16) 7 :club: 3 :spade: 7 :heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

      Turn: ($0.36) A :heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB checks

      River: ($0.36) T :club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.26, BB calls $0.26

      Final Pot: $0.88
      BB mucks K :heart: T :heart:
      Hero shows 3 :diamond: 3 :heart:
      Hero wins $0.84
      (Rake: $0.04)
  • 2 replies
    • ilovemagic
      Joined: 09.09.2011 Posts: 1,019
      just taking a 3 second look at the hand shows me you dont really know what to do when you flop the "nuts".

      on the flop the pot is so small, how are you expecting to build a pot big enough for someone to bet all in or call all in without having to make an overbet on the river?

      you want to get value from overpairs, overcard draws like AQ AK which people hate folding at these limits, and 7x obviously.

      you dont want to win an extra 13 BB on the river from hands like KT...

      so if they fold on the flop to a raise its completely fine, it just means that they never had anything to begin with.
      I can understand slowplaying if say you have position and its a 3bet pot. the pot size on the flop would be fine enough to just flat a bet. But how on earth do you expect to get the money in when your just checking the flop AND turn. Checking the turn was even worse mistake then flatting the flop, just my opinion but im pretty sure im right, unless you had history with this player and they were generally a maniac which you could induce bluffs from by slowplaying. b ut even then the pot is just far too small on the flop to rely on that move everytime.

      my line here would be :
      Flop: bet 60-65% of the pot, possibly just call a raise depending on sizing. if you are sure he has a hand that can go allin on the flop then b/r would be the correct line.
      Turn: if he bets, raise. if he donks, raise. if he checks, bet ~60-65% of the pot for value.
      river: find a way to make a valuebet/raise thats big enough that you get close to or max value from your boat, but not too small that hes forced to call, because that would just lose you value in the long run.
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello ramadas,

      Bet the flop, bet the turn and so on. Don't play with the Check/Call, you are missing a lot value in long run.

      Best Regards.