[NL2-NL10] NL 50 SSS- Pre flop push, was it OK?

    • ivanasrb1
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      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

      UTG ($20.10)
      UTG+1 ($41.95)
      MP1 ($26.25)
      MP2 ($48.05)
      Hero ($9.50)
      CO ($19.30)
      Button ($10.65)
      SB ($58.70)
      BB ($18.75)

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, A.
      1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $9.5 (All-In), 4 folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds.

      Final Pot: $2.75

      Results in white below:
      No showdown. Hero wins $11.75.
  • 8 replies
    • DeKuip
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      I would just bet $3.50 here, there are only 3 limpers.
    • 098799
      098799
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      It's not out of question, but there are two things I don't like about this push (maybe even three ;) ):

      1) You have nearly full stack. With 19bb's it may be better to just raise it the normal way.
      2) There are still four player behind who can have monsters and there were an utg limper who can have god knows what.
      3) You have position on your limpers. In such a case it's better to raise than push - you need to take advantage of your position, not toss it!

      So, when would it be a good move?
      1) a bit lower stack ($6-8 perhaps)
      2) from sb or bb
    • burek2000
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      Originally posted by 098799
      2) There are still four player behind who can have monsters and there were an utg limper who can have god knows what.
      I think that this point is irrelevant since we should push AQ against a reraise because of the bet: remaining stack ratio. At least I'm never folding it preflop after already putting 7BBs in the pot.

      ...but I totally agree that we should take advantage of the position. So normal raise indeed!
    • xylere
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      AQ i would push
      AK seems better for a reraise
    • burek2000
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      Originally posted by xylere
      AQ i would push
      AK seems better for a reraise
      Don't you think you can get uncovered by pushing weaker hands and reraising premium ones?
    • xylere
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      well, I am pushing pre-flop different ranges based on position, situation, stack size
      its kinda tough to exploit
      especially, given the level of players and players pool
      but if somebody did, i would readjust my range
    • tehChipDonk
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      there's also the chance that UTG and UTG+1 will limp with monsters, so really, you will only get called by a hand that beats AQ...
    • tehChipDonk
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      wrong button..