[NL20-NL50] FR25 ZOOM flat calling KK vs UTG

    • preludiumm
      Joined: 15.09.2009 Posts: 6,742
      PokerStars - $0.25 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $13.10
      SB: $24.68
      BB: $11.03
      UTG: $16.65
      Hero (UTG+1): $26.85
      UTG+2: $101.28
      MP: $12.85
      MP+1: $27.33
      CO: $53.60

      SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K:club: K:diamond:

      UTG raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.65, fold

      Flop: ($2.50, 3 players) 7:spade: 6:heart: 9:diamond:
      SB bets $1.50, fold, Hero calls $1.50

      Turn: ($5.50, 2 players) 2:diamond:
      SB bets $3.00, Hero calls $3.00

      River: ($11.50, 2 players) Q:spade:
      SB checks, Hero bets $7.00, SB raises to $14.00, fold

      OR 14/14 100% fold 3bet (3/3) 89 hands. 2 Decent players behind me, able to squeeze.

      Plan for this hand is to flat call, because 3betting that guy is not that good as it looks. He'll probably call QQ/ AK, and 4bet KK+, so since there's only 1 combination of KK it prolly sucks to get it in. There are also 2 decent players behind me so I can backraise my KK which I'm very happy with.

      Random 38/2 guy calls from BB also.

      Calling two barrels is rather easy, but what on the river? Do we have a value bet and if positive what sizing do you prefer? Or should I just 3bet pre or play it differently post.
  • 3 replies
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello preludiumm,

      Preflop: Why would you ever want to Call it here? 3bet for value! Set-mining with KK is just kinda dumb. Even if he folds to 3bets that often, I don't really care, why should we play in multiway pot and invite other players to come along and get really good odds?

      As played
      Postflop: Exactly this happens what always does, people start to go crazy when they have overpair on such a board but it's quite obvious that you are already beat there, maybe on the flop cause a lot of PPs hit a set. Betting the river for value is definitely out of question, you are not really getting value there from a lot worse.

      Best Regards.
    • Farmarchist
      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      But if we call preflop it's a clear flopcall + turncall ?
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      But if we call preflop it's a clear flopcall + turncall ?
      Yes while assuming SB could donk out even with worse.