[NL20-NL50] [SH Zoom] QQ calldown

    • tolari
      tolari
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2010 Posts: 761
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      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BU (Hero):
      $54.74
      SB:
      $18.60
      BB:
      $25.00
      MP2:
      $83.15
      MP3:
      $17.62
      CO:
      $24.31


      Preflop: Hero is BU with Q, Q.
      MP2 raises to $0.87, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1.38.

      Flop: ($4.85) T, J, 6 (2 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero checks.

      Turn: ($4.85) 3 (2 players)
      MP2 bets $4.00, Hero calls $4.00.

      River: ($12.85) 2 (2 players)
      MP2 bets $9.50, Hero calls $9.50.

      Final Pot: $31.85.

      vil: 17/13 af 2.5 ft3bet 53% raise first early 13%

      so pre I think might be flat but he is calling a bit too much of 3bets

      post: ugly board, dont want to bet into his sets and push of air
      turn: he bets quickly pot, after such a play I am always in calldown mode, watcha think?
  • 5 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello tolari,

      Preflop: 3bet it bigger, at least 4x even cause of the stack sizes, you are giving very good odds to set-mine for him. You might even want to ask if we can 3bet for value in first place here but while being deep we definitely are capable of doing that + we also have the position.

      As played
      Postflop: What do you expect to beat there? :) Or do you ever even see that guy of nitty player have a lot worse hands calling preflop? It's pretty capped anyways and I'd say more towards just PPs.

      Best Regards.
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      Veriz,
      should we not cbet flop?
      call turnbet as played?
      fold to riverbet as played?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      Veriz,
      should we not cbet flop?
      call turnbet as played?
      fold to riverbet as played?
      Nope, it's not a must. We ain't getting called from worse there anyways. AQ/AK most likely wont be calling for the GS and that kind of flop is pretty bad for us but meanwhile we might induce some bluffs by Checking behind.

      And please wait for him to answer first. :)
    • tolari
      tolari
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2010 Posts: 761
      Originally posted by veriz
      As played
      Postflop: What do you expect to beat there? :) Or do you ever even see that guy of nitty player have a lot worse hands calling preflop? It's pretty capped anyways and I'd say more towards just PPs.
      I mean, obv pure bluffs. but for me the main factor in this hand is his turn sizing, I am showing weaknes by checking back flop, why the hell is he trying to make me fold?

      I mean, if u were him, and u had JJ/TT you would never bet 90% of pot.

      If he bets 60% turn and 75+ river I am instantly folding.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by tolari
      Originally posted by veriz
      As played
      Postflop: What do you expect to beat there? :) Or do you ever even see that guy of nitty player have a lot worse hands calling preflop? It's pretty capped anyways and I'd say more towards just PPs.
      I mean, obv pure bluffs. but for me the main factor in this hand is his turn sizing, I am showing weaknes by checking back flop, why the hell is he trying to make me fold?

      I mean, if u were him, and u had JJ/TT you would never bet 90% of pot.

      If he bets 60% turn and 75+ river I am instantly folding.
      And why would you assume that? You have even some overpairs in your Checking range here cause you might be scared of TT/JJ and go for pot control. Cause if you CB then from what do you get called, not much. So totally disagree that he wont have sets which bet this amount.