[NL20-NL50] NL25 SH, A7s OOP vs checkbehind flop. Turnplay?

    • darko163
      darko163
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      Joined: 13.09.2008 Posts: 4,665
      44/36 player (18 hands).

      Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1814632
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      Hero (BB): $25.00
      UTG: $16.54
      CO: $15.30
      BTN: $24.35
      SB: $51.27

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A :club: 7 :club:
      1 fold, CO raises to $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25

      Flop: ($1.10) K :club: K :heart: Q :heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO checks

      Turn: ($1.10) 3 :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $0.60, Hero calls ?[/quote]
      What is the best play here? I think we should bet the turn with the intention of betting almost any river. He looks fishy but 18 hands is almost no samplesize.

      What will he check behind?
      - 33-JJ
      - Qx (but he will often barrel for protection)
      - Kx to trap (but not likely)
      - A-high hands because they have SD value

      When we bet the turn and river he can never call with e.g. 88, perhaps he'll call JJ or TT because they look better and they beat more pocket pairs, but all the other pocket pairs are an obvious fold. If he has A-high it's very likely the A-high is better than ours. (AJ/AT/A9/A8) By betting we also avoid getting bluffed, because we can never call down with A-high.

      We could also argument that we won't have lots of strong Kx or Qx hands in our range, but I'm not sure our opponent realises this.
  • 3 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello darko163,

      Welcome to the English NL Hand Evaluation Forum! Hopefully we will see more hands from you in the future. I hope that with our help you can improve your play and as well move up the limits. We will be waiting for the next hands and till that good luck on tables!

      The problem on the flop already is that even if he is fishy and doesn't look a good player I would assume he has tons of PPs in his range which are just taking pot control line and maybe even induce. Therefore not sure how much fold equity we will have in first place on the turn by just betting once -> means we have to 2nd barrel very often.

      Check/Calling is one of the worst lines to pick and nor most likely Check/Raising wouldn't make sense cause you wouldn't do that with Kx after him Checking behind the flop. So only option would be leading out the turn. One of the secret actions here is to gain fold equity right on the flop vs those weak PP type of hands is over-betting which will force them right away out of the pot and representing the Kx.

      Best Regards.
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      Originally posted by veriz
      One of the secret actions here is to gain fold equity right on the flop vs those weak PP type of hands is over-betting which will force them right away out of the pot and representing the Kx.
      you mean ' right on the turn?'
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      Originally posted by veriz
      One of the secret actions here is to gain fold equity right on the flop vs those weak PP type of hands is over-betting which will force them right away out of the pot and representing the Kx.
      you mean ' right on the turn?'
      Yes, where else. :P Much cheaper.