[NL20-NL50] NL25sh AQ 3bet pot oop

    • nickvdb1990
      nickvdb1990
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.01.2010 Posts: 1,753
      $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
      PartyPoker
      5 Players
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      Stacks:
      UTG ($42.20) 169bb
      CO ($28.75) 115bb
      BTN ($25) 100bb
      SB ($25) 100bb
      nickvdb1990 (BB) ($27.99) 112bb

      Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 5 players) nickvdb1990 is BB A:diamond: Q:diamond:
      2 folds, BTN raises to $0.75, 1 fold, nickvdb1990 raises to $3, BTN calls $2.25

      Flop: 8:diamond: 8:heart: 5:heart: ($6.10, 2 players)
      nickvdb1990 bets $3, BTN calls $3

      Turn: 9:club: ($12.10, 2 players)
      nickvdb1990 checks, BTN bets $6, nickvdb1990 goes all-in $21.99 ...
  • 3 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello nickvdb1990,

      Vs unknown I don't really see why you should be picking such a line. If you CB the flop then rather 2nd barrel it and may gain the same fold equity.

      Best Regards.
    • nickvdb1990
      nickvdb1990
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.01.2010 Posts: 1,753
      Thanks for your opinion, veriz.

      Can you explain how a turnbarrel would generate the same FE though? For example, I would expect him to call flop AND turn with a lot of pocket pairs.

      Also, I'm gonna guess he's gonna float pretty much his entire range on this board, with c/j on the turn I still get his floatbet. I expect to be called by 88, QQ, KK and AA (we do block some QQ/AA and he probably would have 4b the KK+) and maybe JJ. That's incredibly thin compared to his float range. If he does call, we probably have 3-6 outs anyway. Can you explain to me where I went wrong?

      Thanks again.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by nickvdb1990
      Thanks for your opinion, veriz.

      Can you explain how a turnbarrel would generate the same FE though? For example, I would expect him to call flop AND turn with a lot of pocket pairs.

      Also, I'm gonna guess he's gonna float pretty much his entire range on this board, with c/j on the turn I still get his floatbet. I expect to be called by 88, QQ, KK and AA (we do block some QQ/AA and he probably would have 4b the KK+) and maybe JJ. That's incredibly thin compared to his float range. If he does call, we probably have 3-6 outs anyway. Can you explain to me where I went wrong?

      Thanks again.
      To give you a correct answer either he floats or not I don't know, cause I wasn't playing with him but you are, you had stats and previous information. ;) So I can't tell you, but it's going to be in long run vs unknown better to 2nd barrel than do such bluffs, why would you even do that vs unknown?

      If you also assume his floating range is wide then why not just 2nd barrel it, perfect to do so cause he will have tons of cards which he just folds to the 2nd barrel.