[NL20-NL50] SH NL50 Zoom, good card to barrell or not

    • flekozub
      flekozub
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      Joined: 19.02.2012 Posts: 102
      $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
      6 Players
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      20/16 f3b 70 reg on 270 hands
      open BTN 50%
      3/6 called 3b IP folded to all OOP
      fold to cbet 50 (4)

      Stacks:
      UTG ($108.61) 217bb
      UTG+1 ($97.40) 195bb
      CO ($20.36) 41bb
      BTN ($50) 100bb
      SB ($57.47) 115bb
      HERO (BB) ($158.65) 317bb

      Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 6 players) HERO is BB K:spade: A:club:
      3 folds, BTN raises to $1.50, 1 fold, HERO raises to $5, BTN calls $3.50

      Flop: J:diamond: 8:spade: 5:club: ($10.25, 2 players)
      HERO bets $5, BTN calls $5

      Turn: 5:spade: ($20.25, 2 players)
      HERO ($148.65)?

      Would we consider this card as good barrel card against this straightfwd looking reg?
  • 9 replies
    • duder1n0
      duder1n0
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      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 5,317
      Originally posted by flekozub
      Would we consider this card as good barrel card against this straightfwd looking reg?
      One of the worst barrel cards. Low card, so doesnt scare away PPs or Jx which could call the flop, plus the 5 pairs, which reduces the possibility us having one...
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello flekozub,

      Well, just CBetting once doesn't make sense either cause he is going to float with very wide range on the flop. I'd be towards rather then just Check/Folding the flop or planning to 2nd barrel it as well.

      Best Regards.
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
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      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      And I guess 2 barrels are more +ev than ch/f?
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
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      advise.. :)
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      And I guess 2 barrels are more +ev than ch/f?
      I'd then just Check/Fold the flop if I am planning to Check/Fold the turn cause I assume he has tons of floats there and weaker PPs which could be folding to 2nd barrel.
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
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      You didn't get my question :)

      We have two options:
      1) Ch/f flop => Ev = 0
      2) Fire flop & turn => Ev = +... (?)

      So we should go for the second option (already planned before cbetting te flop offcourse).
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      You didn't get my question :)

      We have two options:
      1) Ch/f flop => Ev = 0
      2) Fire flop & turn => Ev = +... (?)

      So we should go for the second option (already planned before cbetting te flop offcourse).
      How can you even calculate the EV when you don't know the opponent? You can put him on just assumed range, so there can be tons of different calculations.
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
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      I don't want to know howmuch +EV it is... But is it +EV?

      If it is then we should fire 2 barrels over check/folding flop (and over bet flop, fold turn offcourse). That was my question
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      I don't want to know howmuch +EV it is... But is it +EV?

      If it is then we should fire 2 barrels over check/folding flop (and over bet flop, fold turn offcourse). That was my question
      Well, I wrote about that in my evaluation, please read it?