[NL20-NL50] NL30 FR QQ in HJ

    • BadeaCelRau
      BadeaCelRau
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.10.2010 Posts: 2,122
      $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Holdem
      9 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG ($8.17) 27bb
      UTG+1 ($14.52) 48bb
      MP1 ($34.49) 115bb
      MP2 ($31.30) 104bb
      Hero (MP3) ($30) 100bb
      CO ($36.04) 120bb
      BTN ($9.16) 31bb
      SB ($30.32) 101bb
      BB ($33.53) 112bb

      Pre-Flop: ($0.45, 9 players) Hero is MP3 Q:heart: Q:spade:
      1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.60, MP1 calls $0.60, MP2 raises to $2.85, Hero raises to $8.55, 4 folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 goes all-in $31.30, Hero goes all-in $21.45

      Flop: 7:heart: 2:heart: 5:diamond: ($61.65, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      Turn: 2:spade: ($61.65, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      River: 8:heart: ($61.65, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      Final Pot: $61.65

      Stats in 4.8k hands
      19/15/5/71/52/71
      84/55/19/3.8
      3B vs EP 3% (I don't think this counts because the OR is a fish and it's just a minraise)
      Fold to 4B 67%(12)

      This guy is a pretty ok reg, tried some stuff against me but it didn't work :D . I think the 4bet is ok preflop, lots of dead money on the table and I would put myself in an awkward spot if I just called. He shoved pretty fast, would you call his shove?
  • 3 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello BadeaCelRau,

      You are forgetting the most important stat here, W$SD. According to that we could relay a lot of actions of ours. Maybe even just flat vs his 3bet and reevaluate the further actions.

      4betting is kinda waste of money here if he has also high W$SD cause you will rarely see a lot worse hands which go broke, even not AK. Nor his 3bet ain't that huge. And of course has pretty high fold to 4bet.

      Best Regards.
    • BadeaCelRau
      BadeaCelRau
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.10.2010 Posts: 2,122
      W$SD is 46%. He is losing in this small sample but i think he is winning reg. I think 3b is mandatory, else the initial raisor will shove on our calls (could do that because he is ss), 3bettor will shove and I ? I think positions are key here, MP vs BTN would be NP go broke but this is MP2 vs HJ and I would expect a lot of folds with my 4bet X(

      How big would you make the 4bet? I guess I should make it just 6.6$, maximum 7.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by BadeaCelRau
      W$SD is 46%. He is losing in this small sample but i think he is winning reg. I think 3b is mandatory, else the initial raisor will shove on our calls (could do that because he is ss), 3bettor will shove and I ? I think positions are key here, MP vs BTN would be NP go broke but this is MP2 vs HJ and I would expect a lot of folds with my 4bet X(

      How big would you make the 4bet? I guess I should make it just 6.6$, maximum 7.
      But what do you think MP2 range is going to look like her? Especially assuming he is a winning reg, I don't really see from his range anything worse than QQ/AK and even that is pretty close cause it's still us 4betting like that and we have to have a really aggressive image to imagine him even to ship with just coin-flip hands.

      Standard 4bet size for me is 2,5-3x.