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[NL20-NL50] Bluffing with initiative vs 2 on flop

    • Darkyd10
      Darkyd10
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.04.2010 Posts: 1,329
      Poker Stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      UTG: $7.26 (45.4 bb)
      Hero (MP): $18.14 (113.4 bb)
      CO: $16.07 (100.4 bb)
      BTN: $15.76 (98.5 bb)
      SB: $6.08 (38 bb)
      BB: $16 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with Q K
      UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.56, CO folds, BTN calls $0.56, SB calls $0.48, BB folds

      Flop: ($1.84) 9 3 3 (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $1.20, SB folds, Hero raises to $3.20, BTN calls $2

      Turn: ($8.24) 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $4.80, BTN raises to $9.60, Hero folds

      Results:
      $17.84 pot ($0.80 rake)
      Final Board: 9 3 3 6
      Hero mucked Q K and lost (-$8.56 net)
      BTN mucked and won $17.04 ($8.48 net)
  • 8 replies
    • Darkyd10
      Darkyd10
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.04.2010 Posts: 1,329
      villain is 17/9 reg with huge agression

      7,8 af
      97% cbet
      donkbets 64
      and folds 50 to cbet







      sb was freaky fish calling station guy
      65/5/1.0
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 7,015
      bet vs missed cb = ?

      seems like a fine spot to just give up. the reg will be more honest with the calling station on the pot.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Darkyd10,

      I just love those plays. :D What are you trying to represent with Check/Raise on the flop? Nothing? When FD completes, how many hands do you make to fold? Not many? Think of it and then come back and can post your thoughts. :P

      Best Regards.
    • Darkyd10
      Darkyd10
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.04.2010 Posts: 1,329
      cr flop wud represent a big draw by my side

      i think villain is betting probably all his preflop range so the Ax and pairs in order to take the pot

      Thinking he cant call a cr with Ax there wud prob call pairs, but then he cant really react to a complete flush because thats what i rep there, either cant react with small pairs to lots of agression, so i bet turn


      I know im overthinking things probably lool


      bet fold vs 2 with fish in hand didnt seem good idea, i knew that reg wud almost 100% bet there with his entire range so...i get to c what fish does if i let him bet instead of me plus i prob have the same fe still vs the reg cause his range is the same as it was preflop

      it might be really bad and strange move but i like to test them anyways

      wud like to hear your thoughts about it,

      btw when would a move like this be acceptable?
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 7,015
      just c/f? :D

      i pick this line when i have THE nuts (FH) and expect a good villain to float me often. leveling war = i win. :f_biggrin:
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Yes, it's a Check/Fold.

      Check/Raise as a big draw, I hope you really joking. :D Cause you would almost 99% of the time CB with it and never isolate yourself vs strong range. What big draw, I am curious. :D

      Acceptable? Why would you ever consider Check/Raising as being PFA?
    • Darkyd10
      Darkyd10
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      Joined: 08.04.2010 Posts: 1,329
      so basically if i had a big hand lets say trips or full or over my line wouldnt make sense and id stack an agressive oponent cause he wud lvl himself?

      i had no idea if this line even made sense thats why i posted it xD also why i tryed becuz the line exists lol


      been really curious about it cause cr as pfr makes no sense but what wud happen if i did it so i tryed lol

      becuz if this line is 99% bluff, then i can do it for value and destroy a bigger range, ofc vs agressive who wont check back
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Darkyd10
      so basically if i had a big hand lets say trips or full or over my line wouldnt make sense and id stack an agressive oponent cause he wud lvl himself?

      i had no idea if this line even made sense thats why i posted it xD also why i tryed becuz the line exists lol


      been really curious about it cause cr as pfr makes no sense but what wud happen if i did it so i tryed lol

      becuz if this line is 99% bluff, then i can do it for value and destroy a bigger range, ofc vs agressive who wont check back
      If you had the nuts then again it would be totally pointless while you could just Bet/Bet & ship da money on the river. What's the purpose of it? :D