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[NL20-NL50] KQ 3bet in bu vs utg ,get raised while cbet on flop JJ5

    • ttjjboy
      Joined: 31.05.2009 Posts: 4,205
      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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      Hero (BTN): $77.53 (155.1 bb)
      SB: $24.56 (49.1 bb)
      BB: $51.79 (103.6 bb)
      UTG: $184.76 (369.5 bb)
      MP: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
      CO: $17.69 (35.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q K
      UTG raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $3

      Flop: ($9.75) J J 5 (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $6.25, UTG raises to $17, Hero ...

      19 14 hands 314
      af 1.1 1.4 6.0
      afq 45 33 40
      call 3bet pf 73(11)
      cbet 75
      fold to f cbet (3bet pot) 29(7)
      call f cbet(3bet pot) 43(7)
      raise f cbet (3bet pot) 29(7)
      wtsd 28 w$sd 47

      19 14 seems nit but in 3bet pot the guy is very aggresive
      and he calls most of 3bets
      no idea whether its just becuz he's nit
      dunt wanna be in a guessing game and the flop raise is not small
      if i wanna continue what would be the line?
      call flop-- bet turn if he checks?
      call flop-- raise turn bet push ?
      call flop-- fold to turn barrel?
  • 3 replies
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello ttjjboy,

      Such a board will very often miss your range, especially if you are also capable of 3betting a lot. Plus the guy likes to raise a lot of CBs, therefore I'd rather Check it behind while his UTG range is also very capped and more towards those PP hands.

      Nor I wouldn't try to pick any fancy moves here without good dynamics. And if so even we are floating the flop, never-ever raising cause we would never do that with strong/PP type of hand.

      Best Regards.
    • ttjjboy
      Joined: 31.05.2009 Posts: 4,205
      i used to call hands like KQ ip before but i prefer to 3bet with them as i cant get too much value when i hit and most of time get dominated by utg

      in fact my 3bet pf is abt 6-7,i think its not a very wide range(and it could be 3-4% while 3bet utg)but maybe this hand i shouldnt 3bet him as he calls most of 3bet and dunt like to fold in the reraised pot,so its better to 3bet him with stronger hands ,isnt it?( if i would check a lot flop behind on such a board)
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      3betting is totally fine, especially I like doing it when we are also deep. :) But if this guy is kinda fancy postflop and doesn't give up easily in 3bet pots we might consider calling over 3betting.

      Well, we can even Check behind such flops with showdown value hands and even if we Check behind here we can still hit some overcard. It's quite obvious that it's a good board for him to Check/Raise and you are folding a lot of your range.