[NL2-NL10] Nl10 Fr 99

    • JohnDoe1313
      JohnDoe1313
      Platinum
      Joined: 04.01.2011 Posts: 5,078
      Party, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      MP1: $17.32 (173.2 bb)
      Hero (CO): $3.45 (34.5 bb)
      BTN: $10 (100 bb)
      UTG+2: $23.88 (238.8 bb)
      MP3: $2.94 (29.4 bb) - VPIP: 69, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 0.3, Hands: 35
      BB: $10 (100 bb)
      SB: $10 (100 bb)
      MP2: $11.33 (113.3 bb)
      UTG+1: $29.45 (294.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 9
      4 folds, MP3 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.30

      Flop: ($0.95) J 7 4 (2 players)
      MP3 checks, Hero bets $0.40, MP3 calls $0.40

      Turn: ($1.75) 5 (2 players)
      MP3 checks, Hero bets $0.90, MP3 calls $0.90

      River: ($3.55) 3 (2 players)
      MP3 checks, Hero checks

      Results:
      $3.55 pot ($0.17 rake)
      Final Board: J 7 4 5 3
      Hero showed 9 9 and won $3.38 ($1.68 net)
      MP3 showed 4 A and lost (-$1.70 net)

      Hi. Is there a point in making valuebet on turn, when MP has $2.14 left? Should I shove? As played, I have to call if he plays c/r on turn, right? Thanks
  • 3 replies
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Hi,


      If you shove, do you think he calls with a lot more worse hands or do you always get owned by better hands?

      If he check/raises, do you think he check/raises worse hands? if so what worse hands & what is his check/raising range?

      What I am trying to say about commitment is that even though you get like 3:1, if your equity is only 5% you are not committed.

      - Gerv
    • JohnDoe1313
      JohnDoe1313
      Platinum
      Joined: 04.01.2011 Posts: 5,078

      If you shove, do you think he calls with a lot more worse hands or do you always get owned by better hands?
      Well, despite it's just 35hands he seems too loose and passive + he doesn't play with full stack. My conclusion is he is probably a calling station.

      I need at least 37,4% EQ for shove.

      Board: 7:diamond: 4:heart: J:spade:  5:spade:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      SB     67.26%  67.01%   0.26% { TT-44, AJs, A7s, KJs, K7s, QJs, Q7s, J5s+, 97s, 86s+, 76s, 65s, 54s, AJo, A7o, KJo, QJo, J7o+, 97o, 86o+, 76o, 65o, 54o }
      BB     32.74%  32.48%   0.26% { 9h9s }

      Even if I bet bigger $0,55 on flop, my needed shove EQ on turn would be 34,73%. So I think shoving is not +EV play.


      If he check/raises, do you think he check/raises worse hands? if so what worse hands & what is his check/raising range?
      Considering he is passive, probably two pair+ or sometimes Jx, if he feels he is committed.

      Board: 7:diamond: 4:heart: J:spade:  5:spade:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      SB     94.18%  94.18%   0.00% { 77, 55-44, AJs, KJs, QJs, J5s+, 86s, 75s, 54s, AJo, KJo, QJo, J7o+, 86o, 75o, 54o }
      BB      5.82%   5.82%   0.00% { 9h9s }


      Originally posted by Gerv
      What I am trying to say about commitment is that even though you get like 3:1, if your equity is only 5% you are not committed.
      Ok, I understand it now :f_thumbsup:
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      I prefer betting around your sizing on the Turn to keep his range wide so I can go to showdown for free

      - Gerv