Hyper turbo fish calling ranges from blinds

    • Leito99
      Leito99
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      Joined: 27.07.2009 Posts: 754
      How should we adjust to fish in the blinds in hypers?

      for example when we are on SB vs fish in BB...

      When its obvious they call tighter than nash then push wider, pretty obvious BUT:

      I am wondering because HM stats often show fish as calling 40-50% on the BB but it could be that they have their stats skewed from the couple of hands played with over 10BBs when they call minraises on the bb with ATC or so...

      But instinct says that fish call tighter on BB than they should...

      Should we just push Nash?
      Or tighter? or looser? :f_confused:
  • 7 replies
    • ghaleon
      ghaleon
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      Joined: 17.10.2007 Posts: 5,877
      Generally I am pushing looser versus fish. But if there come like three bvb spots in row I am usually tightening somewhat on third time. Because you quite often see these "frustration calls" from fish if you give too much pressure. If this happen or they just make some loose call make note. E.g. "bvb call T7s 9bb". I sometimes also use "!" marks on reads to mark how often I have seen it happen.

      Before I see some sort of proof fish is calling shoves light I assume they have more of a static and too tight calling range for shallow bvb spots.
    • dydukas
      dydukas
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      Try to filter stats by bbs to get a better idea but smaller sample too.
    • Leito99
      Leito99
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      Thanks Ghaleon!

      Originally posted by dydukas
      Try to filter stats by bbs to get a better idea but smaller sample too.
      I tried filtering but it doesnt seem great cuz with fish you rarely get a good sample..
    • rgs78
      rgs78
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      Originally posted by Leito99
      Thanks Ghaleon!

      Originally posted by dydukas
      Try to filter stats by bbs to get a better idea but smaller sample too.
      I tried filtering but it doesnt seem great cuz with fish you rarely get a good sample..
      Why not filter by number of players?
    • Castle93
      Castle93
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      thing ive found playing them is as the coach said most fish call tigter so you can push looser, but also a lot of fish in these blind vs. blind can call alot looser than they should as they panic when they get down to a short stack, just depends on the fish
    • dydukas
      dydukas
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      Originally posted by rgs78
      Originally posted by Leito99
      Thanks Ghaleon!

      Originally posted by dydukas
      Try to filter stats by bbs to get a better idea but smaller sample too.
      I tried filtering but it doesnt seem great cuz with fish you rarely get a good sample..
      Why not filter by number of players?
      I filter by players too but a lot of the times blinds are higher for example 4 handed than 3 handed or even hu. Still not very accurate. :(
    • rgs78
      rgs78
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      Originally posted by dydukas
      Originally posted by rgs78
      Originally posted by Leito99
      Thanks Ghaleon!

      Originally posted by dydukas
      Try to filter stats by bbs to get a better idea but smaller sample too.
      I tried filtering but it doesnt seem great cuz with fish you rarely get a good sample..
      Why not filter by number of players?
      I filter by players too but a lot of the times blinds are higher for example 4 handed than 3 handed or even hu. Still not very accurate. :(
      Yes, you are right. Still, action also changes a lot depending on the number of players.
      So, it might be a difficult choice to make. :)