# [NL2-NL10] NL10: defending bb A10s vs btn

• Bronze
Joined: 04.02.2011
OOP: VPIP: 26, PFR: 24, 3B: 6, AF: 2.0, CBet: 33 FoldCBet: 0 Hands: 46

Is it profitable to take this line? assuming we are flipping most of the time if get called.

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

â‚¬0.05/â‚¬0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Known players:
7.79
10.00
10.00
16.02
10.00
10.15

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, T.
2 folds, CO raises to â‚¬0.25, 2 folds, Hero calls â‚¬0.15.

Flop: (â‚¬0.55) 4, 3, 4 (2 players)
Hero bets â‚¬0.40, CO raises to â‚¬1.26, Hero raises to â‚¬9.75, CO calls â‚¬8.49.

Turn: (â‚¬20.05) J (2 players)

River: (â‚¬20.05) 5 (2 players)

Final Pot: â‚¬20.05.
Results follow:

Hero shows a pair of fours(A T).
CO shows a full-house, threes full of fours(3 3).

CO wins with a full-house, threes full of fours(3 3).
• 7 replies
• Black
Joined: 20.07.2008
Hello Yellowteea,

The equity isn't going to be very good vs the raise there. We ain't even getting break-even equity assuming his range is stronger there. Vs even just TT+ range we are getting like 40% at the best. We need ~48% equity, maybe even towards 50% equity to make some profit. Which means we can't go broke here.

Best Regards.
• Bronze
Joined: 04.02.2011
may i ask how are we calculating that we need ~48% equity?
• Black
Joined: 20.07.2008
Originally posted by Yellowteea
may i ask how are we calculating that we need ~48% equity?
Do you know how to calculate equity? Take a look into this article: link. And we can continue from there. Tell me if you need any help with it, I can show you how to calculate it later on. Try yourself.

That might be also a good reason to start with beginner's course.
• Bronze
Joined: 04.02.2011
After reading the article i couldnt yet understand the equity if we make a raise here,not calling the flop. After some calculating some possible variations found it eventually,big thanks

As i understood it by the article we need more then 0.86/(0.55+1.26*2)=28% equity to make a profitable call on the flop.

Since we dont have equity to go broke here assuming he is going to call with 33,44,A4,TT+ would it be better to call the flop ant c/fold river if we dont get any help?
• Black
Joined: 20.07.2008
Originally posted by Yellowteea
After reading the article i couldnt yet understand the equity if we make a raise here,not calling the flop. After some calculating some possible variations found it eventually,big thanks

As i understood it by the article we need more then 0.86/(0.55+1.26*2)=28% equity to make a profitable call on the flop.

Since we dont have equity to go broke here assuming he is going to call with 33,44,A4,TT+ would it be better to call the flop ant c/fold river if we dont get any help?
Don't really understand from where do you get those numbers in your calculations. Wanna explain?
• Bronze
Joined: 04.02.2011
We are talking here only about calling the flop
\$0.55 is the pot to the flop, \$1.26 is my opponent bet, another \$1.26=\$0.4 from my first bet + \$0.86 my investment if i decide to call.

Win: \$0.55 + \$0.4 + \$1.26 + \$0.86=\$3.07
Investment: \$0.86

Equity = Investment / (Win+Investment)=0.86/3.07=0.28

Correct me if i got something wrong
• Black
Joined: 20.07.2008
Originally posted by Yellowteea
We are talking here only about calling the flop
\$0.55 is the pot to the flop, \$1.26 is my opponent bet, another \$1.26=\$0.4 from my first bet + \$0.86 my investment if i decide to call.

Win: \$0.55 + \$0.4 + \$1.26 + \$0.86=\$3.07
Investment: \$0.86

Equity = Investment / (Win+Investment)=0.86/3.07=0.28

Correct me if i got something wrong
If we are talking about calling then we should also talk about implied odds and not equity.