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[NL2-NL10] KQ - top pair, turn Donk AI

    • AYuraoA
      Joined: 18.12.2010 Posts: 317

      I decided to call the donk bet on the river cause if he had flush, I don´t think that loose player like this will just overbet shove. I mostly thought about top pair, second pair or drawy hand. Question is, am I right in the long run or would you interpret his shove the same?

      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

      Hero (MP3): $2.07 (41.4 bb)
      CO: $1.88 (37.6 bb)
      BTN: $5.67 (113.4 bb)
      SB: $2.93 (58.6 bb)
      BB: $1.94 (38.8 bb) 39/15 after 33 hands
      UTG+1: $11.70 (234 bb)
      UTG+2: $4.20 (84 bb)
      MP1: $4.04 (80.8 bb)
      MP2: $5 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K Q
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 3 folds, BB calls $0.15

      Flop: ($0.42) Q 2 8 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.26, BB calls $0.26

      Turn: ($0.94) J (2 players)
      BB bets $1.48 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.48

      River: ($3.90) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      $3.90 pot ($0.16 rake)
      Final Board: Q 2 8 J 3
      Hero showed K Q and won $3.74 ($1.80 net)
      BB showed A J and lost (-$1.94 net)
  • 4 replies
    • ShumaG
      Joined: 26.07.2012 Posts: 20
      First we dont need to see the results, second on these stakes I think I wouldnt expect to see only a flush in that spot, and thirdly you called a turn donk bet not a donk bet on the river.
    • JohnDoe1313
      Joined: 04.01.2011 Posts: 5,196

      people can make crazy moves on our limits but without seeing him doing it before I would believe him having a flush or two pair+ and muck my hand.
    • metza
      Joined: 28.01.2012 Posts: 2,220
      In general when a passive player suddenly gets aggressive they have the nuts or pretty close to it. Especially since that card completes flush AND straight draws as well as a very possible two pair. With the K :heart: instead of K :diamond: I might consider a call with the possibility of a redraw if they have the flush already, but here it is best to fold because when you are beat, you're crushed, and you will be beat more often than you will be semi-bluff shoved like this.

      Anyway, I find that its generally not necessary to stack off with top pair, even TPTK, to make money at NL2 and NL5. You will find much better spots than this.
    • Gerv
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Oddswise you need to be good 37.5%, given the fact that you are drawing dead versus flushes & straights, I think you also draw slim versus two pairs

      Therefore you only beat big bluffs which I think is not going to be in his range approx 30% of the time in frequency

      Therefore I think I can fold this hand although if you have reads/instinct/dynamics that screams this is a bluff, this is ofcouse easier to call

      Best regards,