Typical :'(

    • bssjonny94
      bssjonny94
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      PokerStars - $0.02 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      BTN: $2.40
      SB: $2.99
      BB: $6.75
      UTG: $1.40
      UTG+1: $0.89
      MP: $21.37
      MP+1: $9.65
      Hero (LP): $2.08
      CO: $2.45

      SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

      Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has K:heart: K:spade:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.06, MP raises to $0.10, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.89 and is all-in, MP calls $0.79, Hero raises to $2.08 and is all-in, MP calls $1.19

      Flop: ($5.08, 3 players) 8:spade: 6:club: 9:heart:

      Turn: ($5.08, 3 players) T:spade:

      River: ($5.08, 3 players) 5:spade:

      MP shows 7:spade: A:spade: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 15%, Flop 36%, Turn 95%)
      Hero shows K:heart: K:spade: (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 67%, Flop 57%, Turn 2%)
      UTG+1 shows A:club: K:diamond: (High Card, Ace) (Pre 18%, Flop 7%, Turn 2%)
      MP wins $4.90
  • 13 replies
    • bssjonny94
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      No idea how he has manage to acquire over $20 playing like that.
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
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      i like how he also hits the backdoor flush. just for good measure
    • bssjonny94
      bssjonny94
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      yeah and gosh darn it, he basically has my entire bankroll at the table.

      oh well, i just needed to vent my anger.
    • awesomeo
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      Don't let his stack size fool you. This is not a winner.
    • mute20
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      zoom where the fun begins
    • Benm473
      Benm473
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      Its a good thing means you are playing Zoom at the correct time of day aka when its most fishy log your times and write that down as a goody its not always so fishy at stars
    • VorpalF2F
      VorpalF2F
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      Originally posted by bssjonny94
      PokerStars - $0.02 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      BTN: $2.40
      SB: $2.99
      BB: $6.75
      UTG: $1.40
      UTG+1: $0.89
      MP: $21.37
      MP+1: $9.65
      Hero (LP): $2.08
      CO: $2.45

      SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

      Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has K:heart: K:spade:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.06, MP raises to $0.10, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.89 and is all-in, MP calls $0.79, Hero raises to $2.08 and is all-in, MP calls $1.19

      Flop: ($5.08, 3 players) 8:spade: 6:club: 9:heart:

      Turn: ($5.08, 3 players) T:spade:

      River: ($5.08, 3 players) 5:spade:

      MP shows 7:spade: A:spade: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 15%, Flop 36%, Turn 95%)
      Hero shows K:heart: K:spade: (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 67%, Flop 57%, Turn 2%)
      UTG+1 shows A:club: K:diamond: (High Card, Ace) (Pre 18%, Flop 7%, Turn 2%)
      MP wins $4.90
      I've been thinking a lot about this hand, since I was in a similar situation against a super deep stack.

      With his stack, he risks barely less than 5% of it calling the short-stack shove. I don't see why this is so bad, considering that short stacks in zoom willl shove super wide -- especially if they are short because they've just lost a big pot. A7s is 60% equity vs a random hand.
      I don't think he gave you much credit for your shove, -- and why should he? He risks only 10% of his stack, and even if he puts you on JJ+, AQ+, he STILL has 25% equity in the pot.

      KK in the situaion of 1 random hand and one hand with a range of
      66+,A2s+,K6s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,A7o+,K9o+,QTo+,JTo (25%)
      has only 52% equity.

      I can't help thinking that although villain appears to be playing badly, he is crazy like a fox.

      I don't play NL 2 Zoom often, but there is one guy I've marked who plays multiple tables, and I've never seen him w/ < 500 BB in his stack.

      He plays relatively few hands, but when he shows something down, it is almost always a surprise. tbh, I think that most of his stack comes from people just fleeing the pot whenever he raises.

      When somebody can get all of your stack, risking only 10% of his, then he is a force to be reckoned with.

      Did you post this hand in the hand evaluation forum?

      I would LOVE to hear what veriz has to say about the hand.

      Why not post the hand there, then post a link in here so we can follow along.
    • boboistina
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      Originally posted by awesomeo
      Don't let his stack size fool you. This is not a winner.
      Indeed, nobody who calls double all in preflop with A7 can be a winner.
    • bssjonny94
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      Yeah i might post it there now.
      I'm a bit confused though, how am i a short stack when i have over 100bb?
    • Benm473
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      I think they mean that you are shortstacked relative to the guy who has 21 here.

      Also

      you most likely don't have the outs he wants and his ace can be a good overcard draw a enough of the time.

      The shortstack won't have his outs a lot.

      I think it works out that he has roughly 45 percent equity in the pot (9 card draw). I think that he has called hoping to scare you into being less aggressive once you shove because he has called he has the odds to call off.

      Never mind though you can make a note that he will draw passively for future and be glad as you played this hand well.

      I still think that considering the flop aggression shown his first call is bad here as when he has called the first and second raises he doesn't know what you will do and he leaves himself open for you to shove.
    • Schnitzelfisch
      Schnitzelfisch
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      Are we watching the same hand here? It's an all in preflop, no flop agression or anything ?( .

      UTG+1 = short stack...
    • RasTweet
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      Hey guys!

      Nothing just that I moved the thread to No Limit, suits better here.

      RasTweet
    • Benm473
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      Lol scnitzel and whoops we are watching the same hand I have just misread it in which case big stacks call of the re raise and all in are really uber fishy