[NL2-NL10] NL5 FR - TT on BB

    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2010 Posts: 1,185
      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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      SB: $5 (100 bb)
      Hero (BB): $5 (100 bb)
      UTG+1: $4.44 (88.8 bb)
      UTG+2: $4.41 (88.2 bb)
      MP1: $5 (100 bb)
      MP2: $10.09 (201.8 bb)
      MP3: $4.49 (89.8 bb)
      CO: $8.63 (172.6 bb)
      BTN: $5.73 (114.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with T T
      UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.15, 4 folds, BTN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, Hero calls $0.10

      Flop: ($0.60) Q 3 6 (4 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, BTN checks

      Turn: ($0.60) J (4 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.38, UTG+2 calls $0.38, 2 folds

      River: ($1.36) A (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.86, UTG+2 raises to $2.05, Hero calls $1.19

      Results:
      $5.46 pot ($0.30 rake)
      Final Board: Q 3 6 J A
      Hero mucked T T and lost (-$2.58 net)
      UTG+2 showed K A and won $5.16 ($2.58 net)

      UTG+2 Stats: VPIP: 14, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 7

      Thoughts?
  • 4 replies
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      Sick trap by villain but you are never ahead on river i'm afraid to say.

      Although your hand is a flush and there are only two higher, the A :heart: and K :heart: your relative hand strength compared to what people will pay you off with or raise you with is relatively bad.

      I see one street of value here with a normal sized bet and two streets if you bet slightly smaller on each. I consider both of those options as thin in FR as you will not often see other people betting lower than the K high flush there. (unless they are bluffing)
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello AtrociousNightmare,

      From how many worse hands do you get called on the turn & river? Think a bit about that? :) And what kind of hands do you beat on the river? Quite obvious that you rarely going to have him beat.

      We should instead just Check the turn behind and value-bet the river.

      Best Regards.
    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2010 Posts: 1,185
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello AtrociousNightmare,

      From how many worse hands do you get called on the turn & river? Think a bit about that? :) And what kind of hands do you beat on the river? Quite obvious that you rarely going to have him beat.

      We should instead just Check the turn behind and value-bet the river.

      Best Regards.
      If I check behind on turn like you said and UTG (or BU) bets what do I do?
      In the case he bets small? (from half pot to less)
      In the case he bets big?
      Why the value bet on the river? Would worse hands call me by then?


      [btw thank you so much for all these evaluations! (and for the pot size article, I still had to arrive there xP)]
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by AtrociousNightmare
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello AtrociousNightmare,

      From how many worse hands do you get called on the turn & river? Think a bit about that? :) And what kind of hands do you beat on the river? Quite obvious that you rarely going to have him beat.

      We should instead just Check the turn behind and value-bet the river.

      Best Regards.
      If I check behind on turn like you said and UTG (or BU) bets what do I do?
      In the case he bets small? (from half pot to less)
      In the case he bets big?
      Why the value bet on the river? Would worse hands call me by then?


      [btw thank you so much for all these evaluations! (and for the pot size article, I still had to arrive there xP)]
      If we Check the turn then vs bets we most likely still call it, unless it's very huge against which we are most likely going to be behind. But we wont be able to raise the river if you ask for that.

      You are welcome and I am glad that I am able to help you. :)