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[NL2-NL10] NL2 zoom 3betpot deep AA

    • Huseens
      Huseens
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.07.2009 Posts: 709
      Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $1.53 (76.5 bb)
      SB: $1.64 (82 bb)
      BB: $1.99 (99.5 bb)
      UTG: $5.13 (256.5 bb)
      Hero (MP): $5.04 (252 bb)
      CO: $3.49 (174.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with A A
      UTG raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.18, 3 folds, BB calls $0.16, UTG calls $0.12

      Flop: ($0.55) 7 5 3 (3 players)
      BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.39, BB folds, UTG raises to $1.04, Hero folds

      Results:
      $1.33 pot ($0.05 rake)
      Final Board: 7 5 3
      BB mucked and lost (-$0.18 net)
      UTG mucked and won $1.28 ($0.71 net)
      Hero mucked A A and lost (-$0.57 net)


      I have 352 hands on Villain, he has 62% fold to cbet on normal pots(13 samples) and 67% fold to cbet on 3betpots(4 samples). c/r is 10%. Could he play his overpairs this way or is it more likely that he has sets there which he could setmine because we're deep. I am more towards sets here.
  • 6 replies
    • Ickki
      Ickki
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      Joined: 08.11.2010 Posts: 962
      What other stats do you have on villain? vpip/pfr/3bet? What range do you think he's calling your 3bet preflop with?
    • Huseens
      Huseens
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      Joined: 02.07.2009 Posts: 709
      21/17/6.9
      Fold to 3bet is 38%
      I guess range might be all pocketpairs besides AA/KK, suited broadways, AKo, maybe AQo.
    • Ickki
      Ickki
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      Joined: 08.11.2010 Posts: 962
      Originally posted by Huseens
      21/17/6.9
      Fold to 3bet is 38%
      I guess range might be all pocketpairs besides AA/KK, suited broadways, AKo, maybe AQo.
      So based on that range, what hands do you think he'll raise you with on the flop?
    • Huseens
      Huseens
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      Joined: 02.07.2009 Posts: 709
      Sets(77/55/33), but I thought he could probably c/r QQ/JJ/TT/99/88 or maybe even 44/66 ? Buts thats very wide range I give him there I think its most of the time sets.
    • cozacu
      cozacu
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      Joined: 14.02.2010 Posts: 1,379
      I think folding on the flop it's a bit too extreme, i would call flop reevaluate turn.

      As you said i don't think he`s only raising sets there... board it's also pretty dry, he could very well try to slow play a set.Could probably raise 88+.

      No way i`m folding the flop, what if you catch an A and he does have a set? +2.5BI ;)

      To be honest i would most likely call any turn as well... depends on his bet sizing and future cards that come if i call the river as well or not. (is that 10% c/r in 3bet pots?anyway the hand sample is not that large for that stat)
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Hi,

      if player is straight forward you would likely only see there sets. Players should mostly call with overpairs, so unless they are bluffing I think b/f is fine being deep.
      Since he sometimes may have there QQ/KK I think with aces you may consider b/c to fold big bet on the turn

      best regards,