[NL20-NL50] FR50 ZOOM KJo 4bet ip

    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 6,892
      PokerStars - $0.50 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $91.27
      SB: $68.06
      BB: $97.09
      UTG: $60.58
      UTG+1: $50.75
      UTG+2: $50.00
      MP: $28.93
      MP+1: $56.75
      Hero (CO): $58.72

      SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has K:club: J:spade:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.39, fold, SB raises to $3.50, fold, Hero raises to $11.11, SB calls $7.61
      unknown player.

      - calling sucks, folding also kinda sucks vs his sizing
      - 4bet way too huge? $10 enough vs his sizing or even less?

      Flop: ($22.72, 2 players) 8:spade: T:club: 5:diamond:
      SB checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($22.72, 2 players) K:heart:
      SB checks, Hero checks

      River: ($22.72, 2 players) 7:heart:
      SB checks, Hero bets $6.66, ...

      don't really see which hands he could flat a huge 4bet oop with and checkdown three streets, maybe AK, QQ, JJ. also i may be perceived as AK, QQ+ myself so i don't think i can bet very big here
  • 4 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Tomaloc,

      Preflop: 4bet size doesn't have to be that huge. 2,5-3x is enough. Your is kinda high and donating too much into him when he has a hand.
      Postflop: But we still should Bet the river for value. :) JJ/QQ will pay us and go for thin value.

      Best Regards.
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      Toma, don't you use stats?
      Why would we 4bet without some history??

      Veriz, Can we consider betting the flop vs AK? Or do you always assume that people ain't calling AK that much as QQ/JJ OOP?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      Toma, don't you use stats?
      Why would we 4bet without some history??

      Veriz, Can we consider betting the flop vs AK? Or do you always assume that people ain't calling AK that much as QQ/JJ OOP?
      Assuming it's ZOOM you will more often see those PP type of range calling you.
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 6,892
      well yeah, no history but i thought i had seen weakness in his sizing. ship the monies :f_biggrin:

      he had JJ